£900 folly Repair 14. Replace Strut mount bearing.

Oskar

A2OC Donor
This was one of the existing issues with my 'investment'.
I could not determine if it was LH, RH or both, so I bought 2 mounts and started with the Offside RH mount, as the LH one is so difficult to access.

There are a few posts on this, but thought I would share my details for those really new to this.

First thing to do was to put the front up on axel stands, as I need the wheel off, and then later use the floor jack to raise the strut.

(I did not manage to take photos at the time, but have some here for the relevant aspects.)

Next, put on the spring compressors. This was my first issue! My second-hand, old compressors were too long. Photo 1.
On mine, the top clamp is the treaded one, with the bottom clamp just remaing against the 'nut' used to tighten the compressor. This means the threaded rod rises as the clamp is tightended, and was going to impact the actual bodywork at the top of the strut.
I could not invert the clamps, as I could then not tighten them. I could invert the clamp units (put the threaded on at the bottom, and the loose one at the top, held by locking nuts on the end of the threaded rod), but I had no extra nuts of that size.

I utilised some old gate parts to use as spacers holding up the bottom clamp, so the threaded rod would not rise too far as I tightened them. Photo 2.
You may not have this issue, but keep an eye out for it as you tighten your compressors.......

Once the compressors were tightened, it was time to release the strut.
I put the jack under the hub just to stop the strut dropping.
Then undo the top of the strut from under the bonnet. Photo 3.
I used a 22mm ring spanner, but think the nuts may have been 21mm (but I don't have a ring of that size), and a 7mm allen key to hold the stem from turning. As it was not a ratchet spanner, it took a while......
Once the nut was loose, I lowered the jack, and the strut came down with it.
Late Update. the nut is 21mm

Others have stated the anti-roll bar droplinks need to be disconnected, to allow the strut to drop low enough.

I attempted this, but everything was corroded, so I could only get a couple of turns undoing each end. The 5mm allen key socket would burr, so there was no way to retain the bolt against the 16mm nut. Photo 4.
I have heard of others grinding these off, and I was about to get the nut splitter out, but am now happy I did not.

With the droplink slightly loose at both ends, the strut would drop low enough to continue. This may have been the case with the droplink untouched, hard to say.

Next was to undo the 3 bolts at the top holding the bearing. Luckily I had a 13mm ratchet ring spanner with a flexible head, so it was easy. A socket and ratchet will also likely fit.

This allowed the mount to drop down onto the strut. If you push the piston down, there should be enough room to manoeuvre the mount off the strut completely, otherwise you may need to disconnect that droplink.....

It was completely stuffed, and would not turn at all, so this was definetly the correct side to fix first! Photo 5. It does not look damaged, and in fact looks quite new, but the bearing element was b****red.

The part I choose was a Febi one, about £20 per side, part numbers etc as per Photo 6.

Then I made a mistake. I introduced the new mount, and tightened it up onto the body with the 3 bolts. I then attempted to raise the strut with the jack, and guide the piston into the hole in the new mount. Whatever I did, I could not get the threaded section at the top of the piston into the hole, and I could not get purchase on the piston to 'feed' it up. An hour wasted......

The key is to introduce the new mount, and sit it on top of the piston first, and replace the nut (or anything else) just a couple of turns just to hold it on. Then, you can manually raise the new mount bearing and align it, so the 3 bolts can be dropped in and tightended. This will leave you with the new mount bolted on correctly, and the ability to 'pull up' the piston using the nut or whatever you may have used.

Line everything up, and get the spring into the correct place, and jack it all up until the weight has been 'taken'. Once you are sure it is all where it should be, you can then tighten the nut at the top of the piston. (Photo 3). It will take ages, as there is a lot of thread to come up, and it needs to all come up.

Check it all again, and release the spring compressor.

Of course, you can forget to re-tighten the droplink bolts, as I did, and you will hear very scary and serious noises as you drive along. Thankfully, even with all the corrosion, they tightened up OK. They need to be TIGHT.

Of course, I should change the mounts as a pair, however as the offside one is such a pain in RHD cars, due to the brake fluid resevoir etc, I am avoiding doing that one until I have some time....
It's hard to believe they actually engineered things in such an awkward manner!

The result is great. No noise, better turning, and more reassuring.

Cheers

Matt
 

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Sounds like a lot of hard work doing with strut in situ I always remove them and generally replace them at the same time and the drop link as quality ones are only £14 each. The nearside is a doddle compared with the offside
 
It was not too difficult really, just had to learn the 'details'. The next one will be quick and easy, if it's not an offside one!. I agree, replacing the droplinks would have happened if I could get them off. Sometimes easier to leave well enough.......

Plan to change the struts, springs, discs and other bits when I fail the next MOT, which I am expecting to happen. It all works, but the corrosion is present. I have not even looked at the rears.....
 
I've done this job many times on the A2 and other brands. I'm very wary about handling compressed springs having seen the damage a broken Merc spring can do. Far safer to handle the strut and spring on and off the car with just pre-compression on it.
Once off the car the springs can be compressed taking care to stay out of the firing line of a breaking spring.
 
I have most of parts ready for this "fun" with my A2 - but I am strongly considering replacement of springs and shock absorbers with one job ...

So as I understand:
1. Right side (longer driveshaft side) - the entire assembly (spring, shock, bushing etc.) can be removed without disconnection of the ball joint,
2. Left side (shorter driveshaft side) - it is not possible to lower the suspension so that the assembly is free - therefore one way is to remove the driveshaft from the wheelside, disconnect the ball joint or the other way is to compress the spring so that the assembly can be removed and install it with compression again.

I hope that those bearings and bushings have a long life expectancy ...
 
@Bordos it will be interesting to read the opinions of others but I have done this job many times. Springs have never been compressed on the car and I have never detached a drive shaft or ball joint.
I just spread the clamp on the strut and lever the bearing housing down still attached to the drive shaft and ball joint. My car is a SL, may be different for sport?
 
Hi Bordos.
The possibility of the left and right sides being different in relation to ability to drop the hub may make sense. The video I watched stating the anti-roll bar droplink needed to be disconnected, was for a Right hand side bearing replacement.
I did the left hand side (RHD car), which did not require the link disconnection.
I didn't release the strut from the hub end, but I am sure the was enough space to do this, and therefore you could detach the full strut assembly as a one-piece.
Whether this can be done without spring compression, I cannot comment.
The left hand side is for me to attempt in the near future, so I will comment on that soon (mainly the fiasco of moving the brake fluid resevoir etc!)

Others will have more experience in this.

Matt
 
I have most of parts ready for this "fun" with my A2 - but I am strongly considering replacement of springs and shock absorbers with one job ...

So as I understand:
1. Right side (longer driveshaft side) - the entire assembly (spring, shock, bushing etc.) can be removed without disconnection of the ball joint,
2. Left side (shorter driveshaft side) - it is not possible to lower the suspension so that the assembly is free - therefore one way is to remove the driveshaft from the wheelside, disconnect the ball joint or the other way is to compress the spring so that the assembly can be removed and install it with compression again.

I hope that those bearings and bushings have a long life expectancy ...
My experience is from 1.4 petrol but assume the tendencies will be the same if you have a 1.4TDI: the side with the shorter driveshaft will give you LESS problem in sliding the nuckle of the shock when having the driveshaft still mounted.
 
@Bordos it will be interesting to read the opinions of others but I have done this job many times. Springs have never been compressed on the car and I have never detached a drive shaft or ball joint.
I just spread the clamp on the strut and lever the bearing housing down still attached to the drive shaft and ball joint. My car is a SL, may be different for sport?
ditto.
i did the exact same thing - i undid the top 3 bolts first, then the clamp on the strut bottom end and it should wiggle free.
theres not really much room but with leverage on the wishbone you can get the shock/spring in and out
 
ditto.
i did the exact same thing - i undid the top 3 bolts first, then the clamp on the strut bottom end and it should wiggle free.
theres not really much room but with leverage on the wishbone you can get the shock/spring in and out
Was it possible to do on both sides ?
 
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