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Sarge786
11-05-2009, 09:19 PM
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Audi to rev down with new stop-start technology (http://www.a2oc.net/audi-modular-efficiency-platform/11657/)

It may sound obvious, but the most effective way to cut a car's fuel consumption is to turn the car off. Of course that isn’t very useful if you're trying to get from A to B. But for many trips, particularly for city driving, a car can be idle for a significant amount of time. Audi has now joined the likes Citroen and BMW by offering a new system that shuts down the engine when the car comes to a stop. The start-stop system (http://www.gizmag.com/latent-demand-for-stop-start-engine-technology/9269/) joins a new on-board computer, as part of Audi’s modular efficiency platform, which is designed to reduce fuel consumption and cut carbon emissions.
The start-stop system shuts down the engine once the car has stopped. The gear lever stands at idle and the driver releases the clutch pedal. Then once the clutch pedal is pressed the engine starts up again. Audi claims the system is very quiet and, more importantly, quick, with the engine returning to idle in the time it takes the driver to change gears. Under standard driving conditions, the start-stop system lowers fuel consumption by about 0.2 liters for every 62 miles (100km), which translates to a reduction of CO2 emissions by about 5g a kilometer. The system can also be turned off with the press of a button.
In addition to the start-stop system, Audi has another environmentally friendly initiative: an on-board computer with efficiency program. According to the car maker, up to 30 percent of fuel consumption depends on the individual driving style, so the on-board computer continuously analyzes the energy consumption in the vehicle and gives the driver tips for saving fuel. These driving recommendations are shown on a center display, along with all fuel-consumption data. This includes information about how systems, such as air conditioning and seat heating, are affecting fuel consumption, and whether the correct gear is engaged for optimal fuel economy.
The start-stop system and on-board computer are a part of Audi’s modular efficiency platform, which is designed to improve the entire vehicle’s energy management – be it through new powertrain technologies or more efficient air conditioning. By 2012, Audi hopes to lower fuel consumption of its model range by 20 percent compared to its 2007 models.
Both the new start-stop system and the on-board computer will be available in models from the second quarter of 2009. The start-stop system will be used for the first time in the Audi A3 1.4 TFSI, Audi A4 and A5 with manual transmissions. Numerous other models will follow later in the year.

murdo
11-05-2009, 09:41 PM
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Audi to rev down with new stop-start technology (http://www.a2oc.net/audi-modular-efficiency-platform/11657/)

Good idea really. The BMW 3 series touring I test drove had this function and it was very user friendly. Probably more use in congested city streets than where I live though! All seems to point to the big hitters in Deutschland investing in efficient hydrocarbon technology rather than moving towards alternative fuels doesnt it? It'll be interesting to watch how things pan out over the next generation - maybe some of our eco members will already know :D

bretti_kivi
11-05-2009, 09:42 PM
so they're going back to stuff they could do back in 2000? Vorsprung indeed.....

Bret

murdo
11-05-2009, 09:49 PM
so they're going back to stuff they could do back in 2000? Vorsprung indeed.....

Youre right Bret - do you remember the Fiat Uno and Regata ES from 1984- which did this very thing as well? Cant ever remember seeing many of them on the road, or of they were reliable and saved fuel - but hey - we are talking 1980's Fiats!:o

RAB
11-05-2009, 10:11 PM
Audi have already used stop/start - with the A2 of course!

RAB

dan_b
11-05-2009, 10:25 PM
Stop Start was first introduced on some cars by some manufacturers during the oil shock in the 70s. On-board economy indicators are not new either.
My 1984 Audi 80 Sport had two in-dash economy guides - one was a yellow "change up" arrow indicator which flashed to suggest optimal rpm to change gear, and the second was an "Econo" gauge, which went up and down to indicate how economically you were driving (usually in direct relation to the weight of your right foot on the throttle!)

I'm sorry but this tech has been around for decades, it's not difficult, it's just only now is it marketable (again).

Where car engineering/marketing has gone wrong in the last 20 years is that it has been almost entirely about making cars physically bigger, faster and more powerful, rather than about efficient engineering. Compare the size of the Mk6 Golf to the original - even the current Lupo is probably bigger than the Mk1 Golf!

humps
11-05-2009, 10:59 PM
Dan, you're spot on! I also can't believe it has taken Audi this long to put stop-start back in the mainstream. I mean, it is a small bit of software and an over-sized starter motor after all. May be Audi were busy designing big cars (Q7) and stupidly powerful estates (RS6) they couldn't see where the motoring world was heading! Audi are now so slow to react to market, it makes you wonder is it still the same company that made the A2!

bretti_kivi
12-05-2009, 06:39 AM
but I see that Audi really do have a certain issue - the same as any large company - with changing direction. It's easy to say "this is now our strategy" but it's another thing to communicate and win over hearts and minds within the company that it really *is* now our strategy.

Bret

Adrian888
12-05-2009, 10:36 AM
Of course ALL cars are fitted with a stop-start system and computer to work it out. Its called the ignition key and the drivers brain ( mind you, the latter is sometimes a rare comodity...) , I have been doing this manualy for years!

RAB
12-05-2009, 08:55 PM
Compare the size of the Mk6 Golf to the original - even the current Lupo is probably bigger than the Mk1 Golf!

Not quite Dan! We went to SW France once in my wife's Lupo 3L with two teenagers and the family cat in the back in the middle of summer, albeit with a roof box. Soon after we bought the A2 with A/C!

As for size, don't car manufacturers make what most people want and can't resist buying?

RAB

Mike1410
13-05-2009, 02:59 PM
Youre right Bret - do you remember the Fiat Uno and Regata ES from 1984- which did this very thing as well? Cant ever remember seeing many of them on the road, or of they were reliable and saved fuel - but hey - we are talking 1980's Fiats!:o


VAG have also done this before, and it wasn't popular last time around. Anyone remember the the Golf Ecomatic from about 1994?.