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Rob Earl
19-11-2004, 09:35 PM
I've just found out our old A2 - the Merlot Red one on its roof - is on a garage forecourt for sale.
A HPI check came back clear and the garage claim ignorance of an accident.
Opinions please......

http://www.a2oc.net/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5&FORUM_ID=2&CAT_ID=2&Topic_Title=Never+Drink+and+Drive&Forum_Title=Members+Experiences

Don't drink drive! Not only is it socially unaceptable, it also harms A2's.
Was a Merlot Red 1.4SE petrol originally.
Now an Ebony Black 1.4SE petrol with Red Leather, CC, Symphony + all the previous options we had.

maersk
19-11-2004, 10:06 PM
****! why spend the money. Forum exclusions on the first word!

Will
19-11-2004, 10:19 PM
What catagory insurance write-off was it? If someone does an HPI on it then something should turn up at least. If the garage are selling it as a clear HPI then I would inform the the DVLA. Though from the pics the roll-over looked quite slow speed so maybe they were able to fix the damage to the pillars. However cheap teh cars is though I would not buy it!


2004 1.4 TDi (90) SE, Cobalt Blue, Climate control, Cruise control, DIS, Sport seats, Winter pack, Symphony II.

Rob Earl
19-11-2004, 10:34 PM
Don't know what category it was - they just paid for our new car as the old one went over the ££'s threshold to repair.

Don't drink drive! Not only is it socially unaceptable, it also harms A2's.
Was a Merlot Red 1.4SE petrol originally.
Now an Ebony Black 1.4SE petrol with Red Leather, CC, Symphony + all the previous options we had.

jon.od
20-11-2004, 12:06 PM
Uneconomical write off then as opposed to a mechanical write off

A2 TDI Sport Gone but Not Forgotten.

A3 TDI DSG, What do i do with my left arm and leg now ?

Rob Earl
20-11-2004, 02:32 PM
The insurance assessor reckoned £9500 to repair the car. It can't be up for that much more on a forecourt now.
My concern is that the repairs are not up to top spec and a potential buyer could end up with this car not knowing its been on its roof. This was the main reason we wanted it written off - it stood up pretty well this time but if it was involved in another accident........

edit: Have now been in contact with DVLA and HPI. Neither have any records of it being written off. HPI are going to get in contact with the insurers and find out why it isn't on their records. DVLA wasn't sure how to proceed so have asked for a letter outlining my concerns.

Don't drink drive! Not only is it socially unaceptable, it also harms A2's.
Was a Merlot Red 1.4SE petrol originally.
Now an Ebony Black 1.4SE petrol with Red Leather, CC, Symphony + all the previous options we had.

Kaine
20-11-2004, 03:13 PM
Independant of the repair and condition any potential buyers are entitled to know the history - is it an Audi Dealer?

Kaine

demo
20-11-2004, 09:56 PM
EARL ROB
What is the name of the dealer who is selling this car. and whats the reg.

Rob Earl
21-11-2004, 11:52 AM
The garage is Kenilworth Motor Co & it is currently up for £7991 on their website. I've just checked out a rough price and it should be up for approx £9400.

I've now seen some piccies of the repaired car and I couldn't help but notice the A2OC sticker is still in the rear window.

The reg is KE52KYM.

Don't drink drive! Not only is it socially unaceptable, it also harms A2's.
Was a Merlot Red 1.4SE petrol originally.
Now an Ebony Black 1.4SE petrol with Red Leather, CC, Symphony + all the previous options we had.

Stuart_D
22-11-2004, 10:28 AM
I think you should go along there and show them the photos of it on it's roof - do they even know it's history?

[img=left]http://www.a2forum.net/stuart1.jpg[/img=left] Stuart Diamond: (mailto:Stuart@A2OC.net) A2OC Founder | Forum Administrator | Ex-A2 Owner (Now a VW Touran Owner!)

2001 TDi SE: Cobalt Blue Metallic | Open Sky Roof | Kenwood Mask CD | Front Centre Armrest | Front Centre Tray.
Visit the A2OC Website (http://www.a2oc.net)

Rob Earl
22-11-2004, 10:48 AM
I've sent an email to them Stuart asking if they're aware of its history.

Don't drink drive! Not only is it socially unaceptable, it also harms A2's.
Was a Merlot Red 1.4SE petrol originally.
Now an Ebony Black 1.4SE petrol with Red Leather, CC, Symphony + all the previous options we had.

Will
22-11-2004, 11:05 AM
If they are selling it way below list price then it makes me wonder if they do know it's history.
I may visit the dealer next week-end as it's only a few miles away and see if I can spot the signs of repair.

2004 1.4 TDi (90) SE, Cobalt Blue, Climate control, Cruise control, DIS, Sport seats, Winter pack, Symphony II.

Stuart_D
22-11-2004, 01:02 PM
Isn't it against the law not to disclose a major piece of history such as this?

[img=left]http://www.a2forum.net/stuart1.jpg[/img=left] Stuart Diamond: (mailto:Stuart@A2OC.net) A2OC Founder | Forum Administrator | Ex-A2 Owner (Now a VW Touran Owner!)

2001 TDi SE: Cobalt Blue Metallic | Open Sky Roof | Kenwood Mask CD | Front Centre Armrest | Front Centre Tray.
Visit the A2OC Website (http://www.a2oc.net)

Rob Earl
22-11-2004, 08:37 PM
I've kindly been forwarded some pictures of the car after it has been repaired. Fron what I can see, the rear window and last glass panel of the roof don't line up very well - the roof seems to be standing proud by a few mm on the drivers side.
Also, the rear bumper looks a slightly different shade - but that may just be the shadows.

Don't drink drive! Not only is it socially unaceptable, it also harms A2's.
Was a Merlot Red 1.4SE petrol originally.
Now an Ebony Black 1.4SE petrol with Red Leather, CC, Symphony + all the previous options we had.

Stuart_D
22-11-2004, 11:06 PM
Rob, please email me the photos (if you don't mind) and I'll post them up...

[img=left]http://www.a2forum.net/stuart1.jpg[/img=left] Stuart Diamond: (mailto:Stuart@A2OC.net) A2OC Founder | Forum Administrator | Ex-A2 Owner (Now a VW Touran Owner!)

2001 TDi SE: Cobalt Blue Metallic | Open Sky Roof | Kenwood Mask CD | Front Centre Armrest | Front Centre Tray.
Visit the A2OC Website (http://www.a2oc.net)

Rob Earl
24-11-2004, 10:36 PM
http://www.a2forum.net/rob7.jpg

See what I mean about the roof.

http://www.a2forum.net/rob10.jpg
It looks like the rear bumper is a slightly different shade - but that might just be the light.

Investigations are still ongoing. Some of these organisations are extremely hard work to get answers out of.

Don't drink drive! Not only is it socially unaceptable, it also harms A2's.
Was a Merlot Red 1.4SE petrol originally.
Now an Ebony Black 1.4SE petrol with Red Leather, CC, Symphony + all the previous options we had.

demo
26-11-2004, 02:53 PM
i phoned the car retailers today but they said the Audi A2 was already sold

demo
26-11-2004, 02:56 PM
did thi audi have leather interior fitted from new

Rob Earl
26-11-2004, 05:31 PM
No it didn't have leather - it had beige cloth trim.

Don't drink drive! Not only is it socially unaceptable, it also harms A2's.
Was a Merlot Red 1.4SE petrol originally.
Now an Ebony Black 1.4SE petrol with Red Leather, CC, Symphony + all the previous options we had.

fairbrother3202
27-11-2004, 11:29 AM
I'm the chap that started all this I'm afraid!
Came very close to putting a deposit on this car, and if it was'nt for a very nice sales chap at the original Audi dealership with a very good memory, I would have never been any the wiser.
Just hope that something is done about this type of car dealer who somehow manages to hide a car's previous history. How the hell did the HPI check not clarify the situation???

Rob Earl
01-12-2004, 08:54 AM
Had confirmation from HPI yesterday that the car was a category D write off and will now be added to their register - possibly too late though for the person who's now purchased it.

Don't drink drive! Not only is it socially unaceptable, it also harms A2's.
Was a Merlot Red 1.4SE petrol originally.
Now an Ebony Black 1.4SE petrol with Red Leather, CC, Symphony + all the previous options we had.

Will
01-12-2004, 11:49 AM
They are going to be gutted when they come to sell and then suddenly find their car is a Cat D write off. If the DVLA were so inclined they should contact the new owners so at least they can return the car to the garage for a refund.

2004 1.4 TDi (90) SE, Cobalt Blue, Climate control, Cruise control, DIS, Sport seats, Winter pack, Symphony II.

Stuart_D
01-12-2004, 01:03 PM
Surely by law, the garage are obligated to tell them about this now that they know the truth?

[img=left]http://www.a2forum.net/stuart1.jpg[/img=left] Stuart Diamond: (mailto:Stuart@A2OC.net) A2OC Founder | Forum Administrator | Ex-A2 Owner (Now a VW Touran Owner!)

2001 TDi SE: Cobalt Blue Metallic | Open Sky Roof | Kenwood Mask CD | Front Centre Armrest | Front Centre Tray.
Visit the A2OC Website (http://www.a2oc.net)

maersk
01-12-2004, 09:37 PM
What is a cat D write off?
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NEVER attempt a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
A2 1.4 SE TDI replaced with A3 2.0TDI DSG, the transmission of the future - today.

Will
01-12-2004, 11:12 PM
Here's some good information:

http://www.hpicheck.com/cgi-bin/wrapper.pl?session=06a44caafedb6d759d07bf45f8a13c9 5&template=jargon.htm

2004 1.4 TDi (90) SE, Cobalt Blue, Climate control, Cruise control, DIS, Sport seats, Winter pack, Symphony II.

Rob Earl
02-12-2004, 12:20 AM
If the car was cat C, it would have had to have undergone a VIC (vehicle inspection check) and this would be noted on the log book as a write off repair. Cat D's don't need this.
I'll leave it a couple of weeks so the new owner logs the car with the DVLA, then I'll get in contact with the DVLA & try and talk to the new owner.

Don't drink drive! Not only is it socially unaceptable, it also harms A2's.
Was a Merlot Red 1.4SE petrol originally.
Now an Ebony Black 1.4SE petrol with Red Leather, CC, Symphony + all the previous options we had.

fairbrother3202
13-12-2004, 10:30 PM
Hi Rob,
I take it that there is no news with regards to the old A2.
Still hate the thought of a new owner being completely oblivious to it's previous history.

Rob Earl
13-12-2004, 11:42 PM
No news yet.
I'll try and see if I can squeeze some info from people regarding wether it was actually sold or just move to another dealers due to the heat it was getting.

Don't drink drive! Not only is it socially unaceptable, it also harms A2's.
Was a Merlot Red 1.4SE petrol originally.
Now an Ebony Black 1.4SE petrol with Red Leather, CC, Symphony + all the previous options we had.