Eastre Offer

[robin]

After eating all your easter eggs and your A2s are now carrying more weight!!
stealth racing are doing a easter special offer on re chips for the 75 and 90 Bhp deisel A2s

Off the shelf £175+vat
custom re map on the roling road£225+vat
with print out before and after which is yours to keep

This offer is till the end of April

So if you ring stealth racing on 01926812259 and ask for Vince he will be able to help you with any enquiry's you have got or to book you in for your re chip


Cheers

Robin

[Skipton01]

Sounds like a good offer to me and don't forget, Stealth Racing actually have 5, yes 5 A2s in their ownership!!!

They also have many recommendations from other forum members too.

Cheers,

Mike

[Aikon]

That is a good deal! At that price I'd jump at it if mine wasn't already done!!

[pc759]

Vince and Robin have just remapped my motor and i am very pleased with it i flew home from their base in Southam to Wakefield in much less time than it took for me to get there.

It was very interesting seeing Vince put the car through it's paces and then fint tune the remap graphs.

Vince then cleared the fault codes that apperaed on the ECU as a result of it being rempped on the rolling road. At one point for example i asked Robin why my parking brake signal had appeared flashing on the DIS and this was beacause the front wheels weree doing something over 80mph and the rears were stationary.

A good day out with super value for money in terms of the difference it makes to your car


Thanks once again the staff at STEALTH
Paul

[ULP]

I'd love to, but I'm waiting until my warranty runs out (just call me paranoid!) in January - what is the normal price for a rolling road jobbie?

[robin]

You are getting £50.00 off are normal price till the end off april this makes a good saving.


ULP don't be paranoide (you will wished you had done it earlier when you do get it remaped)


cheers

Robin

[ULP]

ULP don't be paranoide (you will wished you had done it earlier when you do get it remaped)

I know, I'm a pussy...

[pamanal21]

Hi Robin, Anything going for a2 1.4 petrol?? + what would the benifits be/worthwhile or not?
Thanks Alan.

[andyman]

Once this remap is done could Audi tell??, ie during a service and if so would it make any difference to the service we get from Audi?.

[Skipton01]

Once this remap is done could Audi tell??, ie during a service and if so would it make any difference to the service we get from Audi?.
Remaps are undetectable by Audi service engineers, unless they go for a test drive of course.

The equipment they use is not capable of delving deep enough into the engine ECU to see the altered data.

Cheers,

Mike

[jamjia]

What about insurance companies in case you get into an accident?

[Havank]

Do you have an address or postcode, so i can see how far away you guys are from me

and how long does it take to do the remapping??

[robin]

As Mike says the remap is not detectable by vag com or 1552 the only way you can tell is when you drive the car.

This is also true for the insurance they have no way of telling its not as if you can see it.

Hi Alan.

I will ask Vince to see what if any benifits there will be for the 1.4 petrol and report back to you.

Cheers
Robin.

[wooly A2]

This is there website http://www.stealthracing.co.uk/
phone number and address at bottom of the page ...

[Havank]

So it this a REVO remap, or an inhouse one????

[ULP]

What about insurance companies in case you get into an accident?

I will be telling the insurance company when I get mine done, but that's only because I am a pussy... If you let them know you want it doing before renewal you will get a better quote than when you're already covered. My cousin's fiance has a Golf GTI and he agrees parameters with his insurance company such as £X worth of bodykit additions, £X worth/ bhp of engine mods etc.

However, I do understand it can't be traced.

[pc759]

yep the insurance is a problem but only on visible things liek for example after market shockers... one reason why i went for a remap is becauseas skipton and robin say it is completely invisible and by the time you write it off it wont be driveable!

Insurance co.s dont need to know about it as they will only cease to insure or whack up your premium and because they cannot tell anyway there is no point in informing them.

By the way i spoke to 2 chaps who had a gti mk2 golf on the day and they said a couple of interesting things which may be of use to others on the forum tho' i am in no way recommending this as a course of action.
1.One chap had points on his licence and had got around this by applying for a genuine EC licence which because police computers are not yet linked up wont show your endorsements. He said the website for this was something along the lines of "genuine documents .co uk"
2. The other chap had mentioned the super reflective reg no plates which he said did in fact work but people had got misinformation about them, as he had seen pics from speed camers at the Transport androad research lab. 2Camera shy plates .co uk"

Regards PaulC

[simoncaine@hotmail.co.uk]

does this alter mpg and does it make it much faster cheers

[robin]

So it this a REVO remap, or an inhouse one????

They are inhouse but we can do revo if you wan't but not at this price.

does this alter mpg and does it make it much faster cheers

It makes it faster at acceleration but your top speed is governed by the gearbox finel drive.
It will make a difference to your MPG.




cheers
Robin

[Havank]

They are inhouse but we can do revo if you wan't but not at this price.

does this alter mpg and does it make it much faster cheers

It makes it faster at acceleration but your top speed is governed by the gearbox finel drive.
It will make a difference to your MPG.




cheers
Robin

Robin

Don't take this wrong, I respect you work, but what is beter your remap or the revo one (money aside!!) You can pm your answer!!!

[Gexx]

Had the 90 chipped by Stealth today.

Very nice chaps there - they explained how the process worked, checked the car for errors, then did a standard dyno run.

Next they flashed the new info to the chip and did a dyno run. Vince wasn't quite happy with it so they did 2 more runs and compared the results.

In the end the car went from 192.5 lb ft @ 2223rpm to 206.2@2027 and the bhp went from 97.2@3759 to 111.4@3610.

However the most important thing (for me) is that the car picks up quicker and the torque curve stays flat for much longer. On the old curve the power seriously dropped off at 2600rpm whereas now the same drop point is at 3400rpm. The car is so much nicer to drive and it just revs round the clock with no complaint. To anyone thinking about getting the chip - DO IT!

Forget about the extra power - the change in how the car drives is great. The power delivery is sooooooooo much better.

Oh and if anyone round Reading wants to pop out in the car pm me!

[Havank]

He Gexx, how long (time) did it took you to get to the stealth guys from reading??

[robin]

He Gexx, how long (time) did it took you to get to the stealth guys from reading??

I don't know but it was faster on the way back !!

cheers
Robin

[Gexx]

point to point it should be around 1hr 15min- but I go the back roads as I enjoy them!

[spike]

Hi Robin
Looks like Stealth may need to extend the special offer until next easter due to popular demand.

Cheers Spike

[robin]

Hi Robin
Looks like Stealth may need to extend the special offer until next easter due to popular demand.

Cheers Spike
Hi Spike

I will have a chat with vince and see if we can extend the offer but don't think i can get him to extend it that long.
But if you book it before the end of the offer is still stands at that price when you have it done say in may or when we can fit you in as we are very much booked up at the monent.

Cheers

Robin

[SimonT]

Robin,

Can you give me some idea how much MPG will suffer?
I'm not bothered around town so much or if I boot it from time to time - that's to be expected, but a fair bit of my driving is at steady 65-70mph on a commute. If it's cruising on a gentle throttle will it still use noticabally more fuel? Also will there be emission issues at MOT time?

Cheers,
Simon

[robin]

Robin,

Can you give me some idea how much MPG will suffer?
I'm not bothered around town so much or if I boot it from time to time - that's to be expected, but a fair bit of my driving is at steady 65-70mph on a commute. If it's cruising on a gentle throttle will it still use noticabally more fuel? Also will there be emission at MOT time?

Cheers,
Simon
Hi Simon T

If you use it as you say steady driving then you won't use any moor fuel than you usually do it is only when you drive it hard that you use more fuel.

As for the mot there wont be any issues it will be as stanard at the reves they use for the mot

Cheers

Robin

[SimonT]

Robin,

Thanks for the the reassurance.

One more - what are the typical gains for a 75 TDi?

Thanks,
Simon

[Marco77]

Had my 75BHP Revo'd on Saturday there and its running 110bhp and 182lbs ft torque.

A real pocket rocket :D

[manhattan$]

Out of interest, with a remapped A2 running at around 110-120bhp and the lightweight of the car, what sort of performance would you expect?

For example would it be as quick as a escort rs turbo?

[Skipton01]

Seriously doubt it Manhattan.

The trouble is that no matter what power you have on tap, you are still running the same gears and so you'll have to go through at least 1st and 2nd to hit 60mph and although a chipped car will go through the gears quicker, it's still not that quick in the great scheme of things.

Also, the light weight of the car counts against it here - no weight=no downforce on the drive wheels=wheelspin=slower acceleration.

Also, the top end will be limited by gearing too, although you are more likely to be able to pull at the redline in 5th gear!

For the record, Tank does a 0-60mph run in the mid-7 second range, which is hardly tardy, but not stunning.

Cheers,

Mike

[Havank]

to get that higher top speed you need to change the 5th gear, this is not a difficult task and has been done on numerous occassions in germany

Watch out though, can only be done on the diesel and after chipping (you need that extra torx)

The fith gear of the 14tdi (75) will be replaced with the gearwheel of the 90 bhp one

this is what I will do after the car has been chipped. costs to do this are quite reasonable the germans quote about between 200 and 300 euros and about 1 to 2 hours work. The fifth gear is easy accessable if the gear box is off the car

So if you are looking for a higher top speed (only in fith :D ) then this is what you are looking for to do

Chris

[robin]

After much twisting of arm's i have been able to extend the offer till the end of may.
So now is the time to get booked in even if we do the remap after may as long as you book in may then you will get it at the easter offer price.

Cheers

Robin

[m i k e]

Hi Robin,

Just out of interest, do you remap 1.4 petrols? If so is it right that the increase in bhp would only be a rough 10? Could you see any significant benefits for doing this on the petrol model?

Cheers,

Mike

[robin]

Hi Robin,

Just out of interest, do you remap 1.4 petrols? If so is it right that the increase in bhp would only be a rough 10? Could you see any significant benefits for doing this on the petrol model?

Cheers,

Mike

Hi Mike

we can chip the petrol 1.4 as you suspect you won't get big gains on the BHP but it will make it more drivable Around town and on motorways so it feels faster.

Now there is another BUT we have to take the chip off the bored so the cost will be £275+vat as their is more work to chip the petrols.



cheers

Robin

[djmachin]

Just spoke to Vince at Stealth (very pleasant chap) and got mine booked in on the 19th May as there had been a cancellation that day.
He reckons I will be able to get in the region of 98bhp and 185lbs/ft torque out of my current 75bhp.

From what he was saying, as there have been so many A2's "upgraded" , they now have quite an extensive library of mappings to apply to ECU's if the more expensive rolling road option is not taken. I think I'll go for the rolling road version as it would always be nagging me that the car won't be running at its peak performance.

He also mentioned that if the re-map gets wiped (as happened recently with a customers A3 when it went in to Audi. They had routinely upgraded the ECU mapping in accordance to a new version rollout), then they will re-flash it with the Stealth custom mapping free of charge.

Roll on 19th May!

[manhattan$]

Robin,
How many hours does it take to do the rolling road remap?

[robin]

Robin,
How many hours does it take to do the rolling road remap?


Hi manhattan$, as a rough guide, it will take about an hour & half to 2 hours to remap,

Robin.

[ULP]

...I can't wait... :)

[manhattan$]

Hi Robin,
Thanks for that. Also out of interest, are there any other engine mods that you do for the A2?

Cheers,
Paul. :)

[robin]

Hi Robin,
Thanks for that. Also out of interest, are there any other engine mods that you do for the A2?

Cheers,
Paul. :)

Hi Paul

Air filter/ engin transplant /depends on how much you want to spend.

if you want air filter then ring Vince so he can get it in for you and no i don't know the price off hand.

Cheers
Robin

[djmachin]

Just got back from having my ECU "upgraded" and what a difference! It seems like a new car has just been translpanted inside the old one.

I can agree with someones previous comment about wheel-spinning in third! There is just so much torque now. I took it for a test before paying and could feel it squirming for grip as I floored it in third. You really do get planted in your seat when booting it through the grears.

It now revs freely all the way up to 4000 where it used to struggle.

The best bit was on the M6 coming back to Stoke. It was so much more responsive when I needed to overtake (usual lorries pulling out in front of me...) and just kept on pulling way more than it did before.

Here are the figures before :

78.9bhp@3476rpm
166lbs/ft@2226

and after (two rolling road runs to tweak the power curve):

97.1php@3821rpm
207.1lbs/ft@2132

Quite an increase in my eyes and it shows on the road.

If anyone is thinking about having this done JUST DO IT. For the price you are paying, it is a big increase in performance and general drivability.

Thanks to Vince for sorting this out and to Robin for keeping me company while the process took place. It was great meeting and chatting with you both!

I've got some pictures of the A2 on the rolling road so I will post them later...

Going to go for a spin now...

[manhattan$]

Impressive results there, was that a 75ps TDI?

I will be down at stealth on wednesday :)

[manhattan$]

Ah,
Just read your sig. It is a 75ps

[djmachin]

Just a few pics (hopefully not too big...) and a photo of the Dyno results screen after the first modified run.

[Havank]

Could they not sqeeze a bit more out of it :confused:

mine is at 103.5BHP :D

Welcome to the you have been chipped club

(its getting a bit growded here :rolleyes: :rolleyes: )

[djmachin]

Thanks Havank, it is great being a member (at last!).

Unfortunately, it looks that is the best that could be done.

It seems that each A2 responds differently to a remap. Some get more that others. I suppose it would have nice to have had as much increase as you have done Havank but I'm still happy with the difference it has made. They tried to get more out on the first run but the plume of smoke from the exhaust was so great that the extractor fan couldn't get rid of it quick enough and the garage soon became quite smokey.

After they had toned it down slightly (also smoothed the power curve some more), the smoke was much less but it looks like the power suffered a little as well. I think we found the happy medium between the two, so it's not that bad really...

[Havank]

The most important part is that you are happy with the improvement.

and i know there is a lot of improvement :D :D