Cruise Control

[Stuart_D]

I am thinking about having cruise control fitted and wondered if it works effectively.

Has anyone had cruise control fitted to their A2 as an after sales accessory?



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[shezlee]

Stuart,

http://www.vehvac.com/

The link above is for a company that can supply and fit a cruise control system.
It is also the recommended installer for the Webasto Upgrade.

Lee and Sheridan,
TDI SE, Dolphin Grey,
Original Audi 6 CD Changer (Fitted in proper location by me)

[Stuart_D]

To be honest, I'd probably only consider getting it fitted by AmD (http://www.auto-amd.co.uk/cruise.asp) as I can get 15% off through the A2OC and I have built up a good relationship with them over the past 12 months.

I'm doing a 3000 mile drive this summer so just wondered if it really is worth getting fitted - ie does it make for more economical driving & is the speed control accurate?

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[JESUS]

Hi all:


Did you see this?

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2405744190

The price is very good

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[deheld]

I have the Audi Aftersales version which looks exactly like the AMD one.
It's a simple procedure, remove the steering wheel, remove the turning signal lever, install the new one, re-attach the wheel.
Connect the diagnostic computer and set CRUISE_CONTROL=1

I like it very much, although our small country is to crowded to use it often, but I turn it on whenever I get the change to !



Dennis de Held

Amulet Red 1.4 Tdi

[DaveS]

Stuart,

Had cruise on my A6 and it worked well when the motorways were quiet.

I viewed it as a license saving measure ! I don't think it would make much difference on the economy, apart from the fact it limits your speed.

I thought about getting it on our new A2, but thought £298 was too much. This cost obviously bears no relation to the cost of the bits, since its just the price of the new stalk and then enabling the software !

Do you actually have to take the wheel off to change the stalk ? Thats the only thing stopping you buying the bit and doing it yourself.

Dave

1.6SE

[deheld]

quote:Originally posted by DaveS

Stuart,
Do you actually have to take the wheel off to change the stalk ? Thats the only thing stopping you buying the bit and doing it yourself.


Yes, the lever (or stalk ??) is attached to the steering house and it comes off towards the driver, where the steer is located. But the removal is quite easy !!

Dennis de Held

Amulet Red 1.4 Tdi

[Stuart_D]

Are you guys suggesting a DIY solution?!!
Surely there's a fair bit of wiring that needs to be done - I wouldn't even know where to start!

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[DaveS]

Stuart,

I think the loom is pre-wired - you just unplug the old stalk and plug in the new one ! Hard part is enabling it in the software - normally your local dealer will help you out with this.

Interesting to see how much dealer would charge for doing it (I guess it has to be more than the original option price of £298 or they will get lynched by Audi UK). Not sure what they would do if you supplied the bits yourself ...


1.6SE

[abre]

Stuart,

won't the software you're looking to purchase do the switch on???

Andrew - 2003 1.4 TDI Silver Climate

[Stuart_D]

You're right...it will!
But in all honesty, I wasn't really considering fitting it myself as I may get some other things done on my visit to AmD.

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[ecoangel]

You can get the same parts from a Skoda dealer but much much cheaper - there was a lot about this in the Dr Diesel section of Diesel Car recently - VAG parts are interchangable.

I wouldn't bother fitting one for rush hour work! Also it upps the fuel consumption by trying to maintain speed uphill etc... therefore not offered as an option on 1.2 TDI models

Lukas

First A2 1.2 TDI in UK
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[deheld]

I notice a substantial drop in fuel use when I switch on the CruiseControl. Plus I lke the relaxed feeling !!!

Next week I'm going on a skiing trip and without a doubt the CruiseControl will be a big help !


Dennis de Held

Amulet Red 1.4 Tdi

[EF MAX]

Just out of interest,, just how do cruise controls work with manual cars.

My last car was a V6 with an automatic box and at say 50mph with the cruise on if I went up or down hill the gearbox would change gears to maintain speed,, how does this work with a manual,, is it just a case of more gas,, less gas,, or is there another way..

[yoyoman]

We had it fitted by our local garage it has saved us a lot of speeding tickets and in our A2 it works fine as soon as you toutch the brake or the speeding up thing on the right side*(what is the name in English)the cruise control goes of we have paid about 400 € for it and it is in the car now for about three month without any problems.
I do not know the make of it it is an extra button on the left side of the steering Audi can probaly do it in a superiour way but this is good enough for me
Jeff

[deheld]

quote:Originally posted by EF MAX

Just out of interest,, just how do cruise controls work with manual cars.


It regulates the throttle, that's all it can do. So it has to be in the correct gear to be able to maintain the speed. In my previous Vauxhall you could actually see the pedal moving, the A2's cruisecontrol is electronic so it doesn't do that.

Dennis de Held

Amulet Red 1.4 Tdi

[hollyrescue]

I have always had cruise control in my cars for many years now, either manufacturer fit or DIY. I wouldn't be without it, it rests the right foot leaving you more relaxed after a long drive, and it certainly saves fuel on a motorway. I have often driven to Spain in one session and without cruise control, you hobble for a few minutes when you get out of the car with a twisted right foot. It will never save money if you take in to account capital cost, but then you would have bought a Trabant if that is a prime consideration, not an A2.

[Rob Earl]

People have said it's just a case of remove the steering wheel and replace the stalk.

I'm dubious about DIY removal of the steering wheel due to the air bag. What are other peoples opinion on this?

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[ecoangel]

It's fine if the roads are clear and you set it up for around 55 to 65 mph - then economy will be around optimum from an aerodynamics point of view. However, hills do make a difference and that's why the 1.2 TDI doesn't have the option cause it's designed to freewheel where ever possible. CC is only relaxing if it's not rush hour with idiots cutting u up and braking in front of you - anticipation is the key to relaxed and economic driving.....

Lukas

First A2 1.2 TDI in UK
Style pack + Chorus + Advance pack + winter wheels + iRiver MP3CD

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[jesperlindholdt]

Hi.

It's not posible to add original cruise control to a 1,2 TDI because off the special gearboxsystem. But someone made special cruisecontrol to the engine in the Lupo and A2. My friend has the system installed in his Lupo 1,2 tdi and is very certisfied.

Jesper Lindholdt
Audi A2 TDI 3l

[deheld]

quote:Originally posted by Rob Earl

People have said it's just a case of remove the steering wheel and replace the stalk.

I'm dubious about DIY removal of the steering wheel due to the air bag. What are other peoples opinion on this?


Last week my turningsignals didn't work. They had to replace the emergence switch in the centre, because that's also the relais for the turningsignals, the one that switches them off and on.
And they had to replace the lever itself.
I also have the three spoke sports steering wheel (and I love it) and the leather on it was slightly danaged, but the dealer was kind enough to order a new steering wheel.

So basically they had to remove the entire wheel, the lever and the center emergency switch.

removal of the steering wheel itself is easy. There are screws on the back that will release the front plate. Below the front plate are the screws that will release the steeringwheel. The cables to the wheel can be detached. Once the wheel is removed the lever can be slid out and changed.
I saw them to this and with the ease they did it I don't think that there was any risk in the airbag going off. But maybe we can find a manual somehwere on the internet ??

For the CruiseControl to work you will need the diagnostic module to tell the car the CruiseControl is connected. Something like:

SET CRUISECONTROL=1 :-)



Dennis de Held

Amulet Red 1.4 Tdi

[Johann]

So Stuart: are you going to order a stalk from Martyn and be the first guinea pig?

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[Ade]

This sounds soooo easy....I can see our social day turning into a 'I'll fit your X if you fit my Y....'

Anyone for a 'group upgrade session' on the day where we can all help fit stuff and we bring our tools?

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[Johann]

quote:Originally posted by Ade



Anyone for a 'group upgrade session' on the day where we can all help fit stuff and we bring our tools?



:D:D:D If this was not a forum for A2s... that is a wild wild thing to say! Brilliant! Or is it just my dirty old mind! [}:)]

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[Ade]

I think I kept the train of thought from my thread with Steve about his handcuffs and big helmet. [:0]

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[NikHL]

Hi!

I´d like to get the cruise control (GRA) fitted but my Audi dealer said it was forbidden as to some bad accidents that have occured.

I read in one posting here that it is only the lever that needs to be changed.
The dealers eletrician told me that my Petrol 1.4 2001 had NO cables connected so far and that there a some cables needed from the lever to the main computer.



NikHL

A2 1.4 Petrol 2001
dark blue, opensky, aerotwin wiper, Becker-Navigation, rear cupholders

[deheld]

quote:
but my Audi dealer said it was forbidden as to some bad accidents that have occured.


I like that one. It's absolute bollocks...

The CC resets itself when the contact is turned off. So there's no danger in the car accelerating uncontrollably.

Dennis de Held

Amulet Red 1.4 Tdi

[NikHL]

@ Dennis

... i expected that...this dealer fitted a cruise control in my Passat 3B and it worked perfectly... i think they just dont want people to fit that afterwards...



NikHL

A2 1.4 Petrol 2001
dark blue, opensky, aerotwin wiper, Becker-Navigation, rear cupholders

[Ade]

quote:Originally posted by deheld

It's absolute bollocks...

I like a straight talker. :)

I would think so to and if it really is as easy as fitting a new stalk and setting the diagnostics to CRUISECONTROL=1 or whatever then they'd want to keep it a deep dark little secret...

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[frido]

(a little bit off topic...:-)

Just reminds me of the story I read on the net some time ago: A guy in the U.S. sued a motor home manufacturer... he bought a new motorhome, went on the highway, set the cruise control for 65 miles, then went back to make himself a cup of coffee....:-) The motorhome went of the road and crashed. The guy sued the manufacturer because it doesn´t say in the manual that you can´t leave the driver´s seat when cruise control is on... and got 1.5 million $ and a new motorhome out of it... might be true or not, but funny nontheless....

Bye, Frido.

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[Johann]

I don't have time now to search, but go to www.urbanlegends.com to see if it is true or not...

Or try www.snopes.com

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[Ade]

Only in the US... [|)]

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[deheld]

As a matter of fact my cc is fitted afterwards. All accessories that are factory fitted are taxed heavily (as are our cars). So the factory fitted cc would cost about 700 Euro's. The dealer immediatly offered to retro fit it do avoid the taxes. There would be a small increase for the working time but now the price was about 350 Euro's.



Dennis de Held

Amulet Red 1.4 Tdi