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alexwharton
31-03-2008, 11:27 PM
www.volvoclub.org.uk (http://www.volvoclub.org.uk/)

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It is time to release details of the events that led to the recent closure of this forum.

On 22 February 2008 I received an email from the owner of a garage that said, “I have just come across some very defamatory comments regarding my business on this forum site.”

The matter was investigated and the relevant thread removed from public view, and as a result I made the statement that posts about poor work done by garages would not be made. This was made after taking legal advice, advice that said the Volvo Owners Club, owners of the forum, could be held liable. The initial action taken by us did not resolve the matter, and it is still unresolved at this time. Hence, we cannot make any further comments.

Such legal action could be very costly and possibly exhaust the club funds. If the costs exceeded those funds the directors themselves could find themselves having to pay out of their own money.

My statement precipitated a torrent of abuse on this and other forums and some was not from members of the Volvo Owners Club.

The comments made on other forums, comments that have been passed to us were often defamatory and insulting. It is clear there are some people who have no consideration or respect for others. They seem only to want to insult others and disrupt the forum. I think we all agree with freedom of speech, but it can only be within the laws of the land.

We, the Board of Directors of the Volvo Owners Club, decided that the best course of action would be to close the forum as we felt the name of the Volvo Owners Club was being tarnished. This was done last Saturday evening.

The insults and abuse against us have continued on some other forums, and it is clear from the comments that some of those people will attempt to get back on this forum and possibly continue their campaign of disruption.

I hope it is clear now why the forum was closed, and how the irresponsible actions of some can have far reaching implications.

It may not now be a case of “when” the forum will reopen, it may be, “if”.

Robert Isaac
Director
On behalf of the Board of Directors
Volvo Owners Club

Darren C
01-04-2008, 08:06 PM
A very interesting find Alex... :eek:

Nice to see you still frequenting the A2 forum. Hope the search for a replacement is going well and that you, Lisa and Mya are all keeping well.

Darren

ULP
01-04-2008, 09:01 PM
What did the Volvo dealer do, remove the smell of urine from the seats without the owners permission?

Crickey, how could you have an Audi forum and not go to town on the dealers - I've yet to come across one that is anything above toilet-filler yet. I have to say the whole 'ownership' experience has been well below parr in this department; it's a good job the car is superb...

vkx245l
02-04-2008, 02:16 PM
I couldn't agree more ULP. We own Audis in spite not because of the dealers.
One thing I don't understand is that the manufacturers spend lots of money on clinics but here they and the dealers get genuine feedback for nowt! I mean how often has the dealer principal asked you into the office for you to give direct and candid feedback on his operation??? You'd think they'd bite your hand off?

Cheers

Jonathan

Emm
02-04-2008, 03:58 PM
On the 10th of march a case was over turned regarding deflamatory comments about service. it was at a resturant, but still interesting case

The Court of Appeal has quashed a controversial libel case, seen as a watershed for press freedom.
Judges have ordered a retrial of the 2007 case against the Irish News.

A £25,000 libel award was initially made to Goodfella's pizza restaurant in Belfast, after a jury found the paper's food critic's review defamatory.

The court has now ruled that the jury in the original trial had been misdirected on whether the opinions were defensible as fair comment.


Journalist Caroline Workman's review criticised staff, the quality of food and drink, and the smokey atmosphere.

Nobody likes a bad review, but if I can't write honestly, good reviews are pointless

Caroline Workman
Ciarnan Convery, the owner of the business, brought the libel action in February, 2007, claiming that the article was defamatory, damaging and hurtful.

Lawyers for the paper had defended their criticism of the restaurant on the basis of justification and fair comment.

Delivering judgment, Lord Chief Justice Sir Brian Kerr said: "Although I consider it likely that a properly directed jury would conclude that a sufficient factual substratum existed for the comment... I cannot be certain that this is so and I would therefore order a retrial."

Speaking outside the court on Monday Ms Workman said: "Nobody likes a bad review, but if I can't write honestly, good reviews are pointless."

Irish News editor Noel Doran said the verdict sent out a strong message that newspapers have to be entitled to publish fair, reasonable and informed reviews.

The ruling could have far-reaching consequences for critics, not just in food, but in fields such as theatre, film and television.

Defamation law specialist Jeremy Clarke-Williams said: "It's rare as hen's teeth for a libel action to be brought on the basis of a review, which is most likely to attract the defence of fair comment."

vkx245l
03-04-2008, 12:21 PM
Irish News editor Noel Doran said the verdict sent out a strong message that newspapers have to be entitled to publish fair, reasonable and informed reviews. "


News papers must be very thin in the Irish republic?!?!

Emm
03-04-2008, 12:55 PM
:confused: Not sure what you mean.

chubbybrown
03-04-2008, 01:08 PM
its the view of the writer not the forum surely,
let them try and sue every member.
what ever happened to free speech?

Roy

Smick
03-04-2008, 01:10 PM
News papers must be very thin in the Irish republic?!?!

Northern Ireland.

Emm
03-04-2008, 01:13 PM
Northern Ireland.

Yeah i thought that but i was waiting to find out what the rest meant first:) lol

ULP
03-04-2008, 01:51 PM
:confused: Not sure what you mean.

The concept of newspapers publishing fair, reasonable and informed views is an oxymoron, ergo they wouldn't be very much to read...

Emm
03-04-2008, 02:36 PM
Thanks, got it now:rolleyes:

vkx245l
04-04-2008, 10:37 AM
Thanks ULP

Apologies for assuming the Irish news was based in the republic.
Apologies for making flippant remarks in a serious thread.

Cheers

Jonathan

Smick
04-04-2008, 05:20 PM
Thanks ULP

Apologies for assuming the Irish news was based in the republic.
Apologies for making flippant remarks in a serious thread.

Cheers

Jonathan


It's OK.

The newspapers in both countries are as bad as each other so it doesn't matter either way.

Northern Ireland has a better national football team and better roads.

As long as you don't confuse either of those you will be fine:p

dilbert
04-04-2008, 08:35 PM
Apologies for making flippant remarks in a serious thread.

OK guys, if you REALLY want a laugh over the absurdities of litigation have a good look at

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/printer_friendly.pl?page=2nd/957977.html

If this had been posted with an April 1st date I could have understood it!

Enjoy