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bretti_kivi
03-04-2008, 10:48 PM
Anyone done this? anyone interested in playing guinea pig?

I had a quick call with them this afternoon (and will call back tomorrow as the promised callback never materialised) about their double-barrier. I'd like a 10dB drop (so that's half the volume) - there's no point trying for more as the glass will become the limiting factor.

I've now seriously damped my doors, removed the bitumen that was in there, added several Butyl mats per door and will add some more EPDM / closed cell shortly. They also now have noxudol on the aluminium inner skin, which means it no longer goes "clong", but "dum". All the doors do. There's no panel now on the outside of the car that rings when you tap it: it's all "thum".
The inside of the door cards will get another layer of felt; it's the floor and main bulkhead that's causing me grief. The problem lies in the fact that Aluminium simply transmits sound as well as steel, and weighing less, it damps less. So we have to add mass to kill the vibrations. What's getting me at the moment is the road noise.

So, I'm trying a multi-pronged idea. If I can get 5mm EPDM / Vinyl here, then I'll try that. Noisekiller is cheaper and I'd be interested in asking them to create a kit for the A2, also to help damp the tractor properties of the TDI. Which would make it easier for everyone else, too. It mostly is tyre noise, too, as driving on snow drops the noise floor considerably. Removing the rear luggage area side panels increases the noise to silly levels, so i'm rethinking my plan to replace those.

Interest from anyone? Has anyone else got any better ideas?

Bret

Alan_uk
04-04-2008, 10:06 PM
Interest from anyone? Has anyone else got any better ideas?


When I switched from the factory fitted Michelin to Pirrelli P6000 Powergy 185/50/16V there was a significant drop in road noise - by half I would say. I guess the Michelin were a harder compound tyre and that I shall get less wear from the Pirrellis but it will be worth it.

bretti_kivi
05-04-2008, 08:34 PM
I actually run Nokian 215/40R17s at the moment and changing them isn't an option. Right now the car has Hakkapeliittä 4s in 185/55R15 with spikes and I went out yesterday with my daughter. On the way home there was no problem talking at normal volume and I'm not convinced about the reasons for this.

Since I have some felt and open cell foam lying around, I might actually try that first. But then I need a mic to do some real analysis. I have to get one for the Audio system anyway.

thanks for the tip.

Bret

Xiter
05-04-2008, 11:40 PM
Well, I also have the Hakka 4 tires (185/65-15) and those are one of the noisiest winter tires on the market. But the grip on snow and ice compensates the noise by far :)

bretti_kivi
06-04-2008, 10:43 PM
A thought that came today on the way back from a quick mud road trip: the b-pillar is badly insulated (most of the noise comes through that, now?) and the underbody is hardly insulated at all. See.: http://www.a2-freun.de/forum/showpost.php?p=651391&postcount=66 (left most pic)...

i think noxudol would be good here. Have to see if I can get some more, cheap.

Bret