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the grim reeper
03-07-2008, 11:40 PM
Hi all finally got round to getting a laptop as the better half's hogging our PC(sorry Mike didn't see that you still had yours for sale till it was to late), anyway can anyone recomend a router for cable (ie virgin)

Cheers Phil

Toadconsulting
03-07-2008, 11:55 PM
Check out dabs.com - normaly some ok deals going on.
I have used NetGear & Linksys in the past which seem to get some good write-ups..
http://www.dabs.com/productlist.aspx?&NavigationKey=11177&NavigationKey=4294959958&CategorySelectedId=11177


Toad.

Skipton01
03-07-2008, 11:56 PM
Not to worry Phil, take a look at this one, it should fit the bill and will give excellent range, being a wireless-n type.

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/store/pcw_page.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@1961063383.121512201 2@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccfkadeehmjhddjcflgceggdhhmdgmj.0&page=Product&fm=null&sm=null&tm=null&sku=358228&category_oid=

Cheers,

Mike

PS Laptop reduced to £450 for a quick sale now

Wallace1231
04-07-2008, 12:27 AM
Hi Phil.

I have used wireless routing for a long time (almost since it's first been available) because it is just more practical for me, however you have to make sure you're choosing the right one.

Personally I have had every specification going, from the high-end £100+ ones to ones as cheap as £1!

In my experience, I have found that the less expensive routers can be just as good as the high-end ones, and I play online games where internet latency is crucial.

The safe choice is to go with Netgear or Lynxys. http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=NW-082-LS&groupid=46&catid=1014&subcat=&name=Linksys%20WRT160N%20300Mbps%20Wireless%20Cabl e%20Router

Otherwise I recommend cheaper brands such as TP-Link (My current router) which cost me £20 and is the best I have had. http://www.google.co.uk/products?q=TP-Link+cable&btnG=Search+Products&hl=en&show=dd

Oh and FYI - Don't buy online from PC World, infact imo, never buy from PC world.

Try Dabs (http://www.dabs.com/), Scan (http://scan.co.uk/), OverclockersUK (http://overclockers.co.uk/), CPC (http://cpc.farnell.com/), or Ebuyer (http://www.ebuyer.com/).

Sarge786
04-07-2008, 12:28 AM
Just remember one thing, IF your connecting to 'CABLE' broadband then the router you need to buy MUST be a DSL and NOT ADSL!

ADSL is for BT networks, I'm sure you know this already in which case tell me to p**s off ... LOL :)



SARGE


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Skipton01
04-07-2008, 01:24 AM
Hi Phil.

I have used wireless routing for a long time (almost since it's first been available) because it is just more practical for me, however you have to make sure you're choosing the right one.

Personally I have had every specification going, from the high-end £100+ ones to ones as cheap as £1!

In my experience, I have found that the less expensive routers can be just as good as the high-end ones, and I play online games where internet latency is crucial.

The safe choice is to go with Netgear or Lynxys. http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=NW-082-LS&groupid=46&catid=1014&subcat=&name=Linksys%20WRT160N%20300Mbps%20Wireless%20Cabl e%20Router

Otherwise I recommend cheaper brands such as TP-Link (My current router) which cost me £20 and is the best I have had. http://www.google.co.uk/products?q=TP-Link+cable&btnG=Search+Products&hl=en&show=dd

Oh and FYI - Don't buy online from PC World, infact imo, never buy from PC world.

Try Dabs (http://www.dabs.com/), Scan (http://scan.co.uk/), OverclockersUK (http://overclockers.co.uk/), CPC (http://cpc.farnell.com/), or Ebuyer (http://www.ebuyer.com/).
I hear what you're saying Wallace and indeed, if you can get the same product, including postage, for less, then go elsewhere.

PC World has its plusses and minuses:

+ they are local
+ you can usually walk out with the product
+ they will pricematch
+ returns are easier and cheaper (no postage)

- the advice given is usually pants (being polite)
- the shelf price is usually a little higher than elsewhere

I have used Ebuyer several times and they are pretty good, but will sometimes pass off grey import stuff as UK stock and you'll not get a proper warranty, plus you always have to either wait a week for cheap delivery or pay through the nose for quick despatch.

Scan are good, but again, can be costly for delivery and are certainly not local, unless you live near the JJB Stadium.

Farnell are excellent, but I have only used them for electronic components (most of my LED mods are from them).

Bottom line is decide for yourself where you want to shop. BUT, don't be tempted by SLR Express!!!

Cheers,

Mike

Wallace1231
04-07-2008, 08:54 AM
I hear what you're saying Wallace and indeed, if you can get the same product, including postage, for less, then go elsewhere.

PC World has its plusses and minuses:

+ they are local
+ you can usually walk out with the product
+ they will pricematch
+ returns are easier and cheaper (no postage)

- the advice given is usually pants (being polite)
- the shelf price is usually a little higher than elsewhere

I have used Ebuyer several times and they are pretty good, but will sometimes pass off grey import stuff as UK stock and you'll not get a proper warranty, plus you always have to either wait a week for cheap delivery or pay through the nose for quick despatch.

Scan are good, but again, can be costly for delivery and are certainly not local, unless you live near the JJB Stadium.

Farnell are excellent, but I have only used them for electronic components (most of my LED mods are from them).

Bottom line is decide for yourself where you want to shop. BUT, don't be tempted by SLR Express!!!

Cheers,

Mike

The reason why i dislike PC World is because I think that they run a completely unethical business. Unfortunately, the majority of PC World's customers are people who are not particularly well informed about technology. These people generally dont understand how much cheaper they can get it in internet stores, or the fact that if they did know they could price match with PC World.

This is where my problem lies. PC World take advantage of these people by putting a ridiculous shelf price on their products when their customers dont know any better. e.g. Compare below.

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/product/seo/409233

http://overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-059-BG

This goes for almost all of their components/desktops/laptops/accessories. Oh and if they claim to charge a premium for 'support', that's BS because their (so-called) IT staff, in all of my experiences, have been extremely unhelpful when I ask them anything beyond the simple.

the grim reeper
04-07-2008, 11:20 PM
Hey guys thanks alot, this side of things is abit new for me so i will shop around thanks

Cheers Phil

Skipton01
04-07-2008, 11:38 PM
Wallace, I completely agree with your view of PC World, but can I add this:

The reason why their prices are so much higher than elsewhere is that they have to pay for slinky stores, usually large and usually in prime retail locations. Their staff overheads are minimal, as are their other overheads, but (as per most Audi dealers) you are paying for the ability to walk in and walk out with the item you want under your arm.

They're no more unethical than most businesses, who are all trying to turn a profit. Why buy a flatscreen tv from Marks & Spencer for sometimes double the price you could get it for? They are exploiting the type of customer who habitually shops in M&S. There are many more examples as well, but I'll leave it there.

Cheers,

Mike

the grim reeper
04-07-2008, 11:51 PM
Wow i didn't think this would get this sort of response.
to be honest i will look online and on the high street for the best deal and if PC World are doing the best deal they will get my buisness simple. Saying that never bought anything form them

Cheers Phil

Wallace1231
04-07-2008, 11:57 PM
Wallace, I completely agree with your view of PC World, but can I add this:

The reason why their prices are so much higher than elsewhere is that they have to pay for slinky stores, usually large and usually in prime retail locations. Their staff overheads are minimal, as are their other overheads, but (as per most Audi dealers) you are paying for the ability to walk in and walk out with the item you want under your arm.

They're no more unethical than most businesses, who are all trying to turn a profit. Why buy a flatscreen tv from Marks & Spencer for sometimes double the price you could get it for? They are exploiting the type of customer who habitually shops in M&S. There are many more examples as well, but I'll leave it there.

Cheers,

Mike

Yes I take your point. The majority of internet retailers don't have to pay for the stores and added fixed costs that go with them. I suppose they just benefit from economies of scale and therefore able to do what they do.

Anyway, thanks, I've changed my opinion of these stores. I guess it's a very obvious point, I just didnt see.