1.6fsi oil filler pipe ….Help please

pandsnolan

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Hi I noticed the car over revving and the EML popped up . Fault codes pointed to a vacuum fault . Turned out it’s a split in the oil filler pipe from the service flapCan anyone help me to locate one please. I’ve tried Crewe Audi . If they don’t have it I don’t know who will

Many thanks
Paul
 
Hi,
If your DIY minded these can be repaired with a stanley knife and silicone hose.
Hopefully the FSI pipe is the same design as the 1.4 petrol.
I've been caught out before by bespoke FSI differences.
I did make a hand drawn diagram of how to fix. I'll wait and see if someone knows the answer, meanwhile I'll look for the diagram.
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In the photo above I have yet to carefully cut through the remaining old plastic pipe on each end piece. Once that plastic is removed it reveals the 2 barbs that will hold onto you new cut to length hose.

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Good luck

The only other question would be do you know how the release mechanism works for the lower end of the pipe where it goes into the engine?
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Your just 20 minutes away from @Ami one of the ethical part suppliers
 
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pandsnolan said:
Thanks fingers crossed someone has one
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you're lucky it's not a Tdi as I suspect an FSi one will turn up - Tdi equivalents NLA from any Audi UK parts centre after Emailing around, likewise Audi Tradition in Germany, three Ebay sellers let me down here in the UK (one sold and then cancelled sale without reason, two found that the part was split before sending and refunded) and ended up getting a part from Lithuania that took around a month to deliver and then WOM fitted it as part of the project AMF engine refurb. That was after trying our normally reliable A2oc dismantlers but no suitable parts were available at the time. If it happens again now I would take the approach above with silicone hose and using the existing ends.

For that matter, just thinking about it - if there was a suitable type of heatshrink repair material (silicone?) I would also consider using that - since I learnt how to use electrical heatshrink with my Lidl heat gun a couple of months ago I can see all sorts of opportunities to use similar for repairs.
 
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Hi,
The part is worth repairing as @Robin_Cox descrbed and you maybe able use the heat shrink fix with the part in situ?

If removing the part to fix it on the bench. Be aware that on removal oil can drain from where it was fitted, have a container ready to collect it.

I suggest using oil resistant silicone hose, it is softer than rubber and will flex as the engine moves on the mounts when the car is being driven.

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The corrugated tube can be cut off and replaced with any oil resistant hose with the correct internal diameter and length.

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The tubes on the FSI looks similar to the 1.4 petrol seen in this post.

Ridge

Thread 'Oil filler and dipstick on 1.4 petrol'

I read quite a few threads about this, but most of them dealt with the 1.4 TDI which has a different part.

The 1.4 petrol has a combined oil filler hose and dipstick part. 8Z0115302R. Costs 250 € in Ebay. Pretty expensive.

I noticed that there's some oil below the oil filler hose. I haven't seen an oil leak myself, so maybe it's older. But now I noticed that the oil dipstick has actually snapped off from the metal connector pipe from the engine. I think it can be carefully put in place, but certainly the black middle connector part is missing.

Rather than purchasing this expensive part...
 
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I am in pursuit of the likely air leak into the enigne (that has led to my Engine Management Light mostly showing up over recent months and some advice that it was probably the car maxing out its trim settings to put more fuel in the mix).

I've found a major potential culprit, the split orange plastic collar at the top of my oil dip stick tube. It's a X plate 1.4 engine, and the dip stick is the early type 8Z0115611G (that's remarkably fully intact). It's previously been repaired with clips, but it's not holding together well. I found this thread about the tube, (the tube itself seems ok). What's the part number for this orange collar. I'm bracing myself to hear it's NLA. If it isn't does anyone have a suggestion for how I could bind the cracked collar better together than with these clips. Perhaps a combination of glue and a wider tube to slip over the broken parts having first cleared away the clips? But I'd rather it was tidy and OEM.
 

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Fsi & 1.4 petrol oil filler pipe are the same held in by one bolt to the oil filter housing.
Hope this helps
 
Richard77 said:
I am in pursuit of the likely air leak into the enigne (that has led to my Engine Management Light mostly showing up over recent months and some advice that it was probably the car maxing out its trim settings to put more fuel in the mix).

I've found a major potential culprit, the split orange plastic collar at the top of my oil dip stick tube. It's a X plate 1.4 engine, and the dip stick is the early type 8Z0115611G (that's remarkably fully intact). It's previously been repaired with clips, but it's not holding together well. I found this thread about the tube, (the tube itself seems ok). What's the part number for this orange collar. I'm bracing myself to hear it's NLA. If it isn't does anyone have a suggestion for how I could bind the cracked collar better together than with these clips. Perhaps a combination of glue and a wider tube to slip over the broken parts having first cleared away the clips? But I'd rather it was tidy and OEM.
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I would remove everything from the car ; then detach the zip ties, clean it all up and gently use heat shrink - possibly a few layers added sequentially - to reinforce the join between the parts and hopefully seal it up.

What condition is the oil lid on top of the engine block? The seal there does gradually deteriorate so a new lid for under a tenner (last time I looked) would be a no brainer if you are trying to eliminate sources of unmetered air.
 
Robin_Cox said:
I would remove everything from the car ; then detach the zip ties, clean it all up and gently use heat shrink - possibly a few layers added sequentially - to reinforce the join between the parts and hopefully seal it up.

What condition is the oil lid on top of the engine block? The seal there does gradually deteriorate so a new lid for under a tenner (last time I looked) would be a no brainer if you are trying to eliminate sources of unmetered air.
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Thanks Robin. I'll check the oil lid, not thought of that despite it being a fairly routine part that failed on my old Leylands.
When you say remove everything in preparation for applying heat shrink (presumably layers of wrap), would you take it all out back to where the dipstick tube attaches to the engine? And then wrap over the existing cracked filler collar and its connection to the dipstick tube. If you have a recommendation for a specific heat shrink please add a link. I'm a keen and fairly competent DIYer (but better with timber and masonry), I've got an electric heat gun I mostly use for paint stripping. Would this heat shrink be suitable https://hilltop-products.co.uk/heat-shrink-hot-melt-tape-with-adhesive-inner-hdv-25-metre-rolls.html or perhaps better to buy heat shrink black tubing? Thanks.
 
Richard77 said:
Thanks Robin. I'll check the oil lid, not thought of that despite it being a fairly routine part that failed on my old Leylands.
When you say remove everything in preparation for applying heat shrink (presumably layers of wrap), would you take it all out back to where the dipstick tube attaches to the engine? And then wrap over the existing cracked filler collar and its connection to the dipstick tube. If you have a recommendation for a specific heat shrink please add a link. I'm a keen and fairly competent DIYer (but better with timber and masonry), I've got an electric heat gun I mostly use for paint stripping. Would this heat shrink be suitable https://hilltop-products.co.uk/heat-shrink-hot-melt-tape-with-adhesive-inner-hdv-25-metre-rolls.html or perhaps better to buy heat shrink black tubing? Thanks.
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Richard:
All ready for you whatsapp sent.
Ami

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pandsnolan said:
Ami
Thanks . Ive got one reserved with @A2Steve from his next fsi breaker . I fixed the vacuum leak with heat shrink as suggested by @rotifer II for now as there was no oil leak just the vacuum problem. Thanks again for the reply
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Hiya mate, I hadn’t forgotten about you 😊 unfortunately the one on this breaker is damaged so if you can source one elsewhere that’s great, otherwise I’ll keep the next one for you.
 
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Hiya mate, I hadn’t forgotten about you 😊 unfortunately the one on this breaker is damaged so if you can source one elsewhere that’s great, otherwise I’ll keep the next one for you.
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Steve
No worries . I’m back on the road . Yes please when one comes up .
Thanks again
Paul
 
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Richard:
All ready for you whatsapp sent.
Ami

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Hi Ami. As discussed on WhatsApp, but for clarity here for others on this trail, the dipstick and collar you are offering here is I believe 8Z0115611R (the code will be on the dipstick ring), where as I need the collar for dipstick 8Z0115611G (which doesn't have the notch). I believe both are for 1.4 petrol engines with the code ending G being for older cars (mine's registered Jan 2001). And there's a third dipstick 8Z0115611E for the diesels perhaps? I think I may have found the collar I need as new old stock from a Spain website, part number 8Z0115636, but it's a bit of a gamble, I'll wait to see what arrives for £19 including postage, so I may need a used part. Thank you.
 
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Part 8Z0115636 arrived from Spain a few weeks ago and I'm trying to fit it. (It thankfully looks like just what I was after, matching the profile of the split one held partially together with cable ties and possibly letting in air and causing my trim problems).

I'm stuck now with the remains of the old collar held into the dipstick tube with a strong elaborately moulded black clip (PA12 GF20 by NORMA) that grips the collar and slots into the dipstick tube. How do I get this out? I'm anxious to damage the clip as I don't have a replacement and when I look online for them this part number seems to also apply to right angle shaped versions used in other VAG applications.

I attach a picture showing the clip with the old bit of collar still inside, the new collar resting below and the bit of old collar I've removed so far.

I'm wondering... should I use a hair dryer to warm up and hopefully soften the oil filler tub and just keep trying to pull it out, or is there a nifty trick? Thanks very much

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