90 vs 75

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Hi,

I'm looking to change my 1.4 petrol for a TDi. I know next to nothing about cars so forgive a silly question...

What is the difference between a 75 and 90 (beyond BHP) I'm having to pay quite a premium for a 90. would it not be cheaper to get a 75 and have it remapped?

Does the 90 have up-rated parts to cater for the extra power?

Phil
 
There are various technical differences in the engine (foremost of which is a new turbo with variable vanes), the gearbox is changed with different ratios and a dual mass flywheel and the biggest difference from a visible point of view is the rear brakes. On the 75, they are drums and on the 90 there are discs fitted.

A remapped 75 will outpace a standard 90 and is a very good car, however, the remapped 90 will in turn leapfrog the remapped 75. It purely depends on when you want to buy, how deep your pockets are and how much you want the top diesel dog.

Cheers,

Mike
 
Phil

Try the 75. You might be surprised at how well it goes in standard form. And then get it remapped if you need to.:D Mine's standard and I'm really happy with it, i can only imagin that a 90 or a remapped 75 is a hoot!
 
In an ideal world I would have got a 90, but in the time I had to buy my car, I could only find 75s that had the spec I wanted and were in my price range. I'm in no way disappointed with my 75 and having re-mapped it, it's nippy enough.

If you can find a 90 in your budget range then go for it, but the 75 is still a good car!
 
Before getting my 2003 '75' tdi I too thought the '90' would be the better buy. I got a '75' because, they're being way more available, it was much easier getting a higher 'specced car.

Having had my '75' put through a rolling road bespoke remap by Jabbasport, I'm more than well pleased by the way it performs with more than 108 bhp at the wheels having been confirmed.

Another HUGE advantage of getting a '75' is that there is no fear that the car will suffer from the dreaded dual-mass flywheel clutch problems experienced by A2s and other VAG cars fitted with this crap piece of kit.

My advice? Go for the best 'specced '75' you can afford and then get a decent remap applied to it.

P.S. - welcome to the smiley A2 world!
 
Thanks for the welcomes,

I've had little luck getting the dealers to reduce their prices i'm afraid. The best offer i've had is 8750 with towbar fitted for a 75 and 8500 without towbar for a 90.

I was holding out for 8000 with towbar fitted for a 75 - i'll keep an eye out for the right car - but for now i'm keeping the 1.4 petrol and living with the issues.

I've added point on the 'things i like about the A2' thread

Phil
 
ULP said:
Don't forget the 'Euro 4' TDI 75 also has a variable vane turbo!
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Not sure I knew that. :eek: Does that include my car then, a 54 plate 75TDi Special Edition (the one with the fluted front grille)?

I have read on here how the variable vanes can stick, is there anything you can do to minimise the chances of that happening?

Cheers

JH
 
I always thought it was only the 90bhp engine which had the variable geometry turbo.
Can anyone confirm?

Cheers Spike
 
I know that the part numbers for the AMF and BHC engined diesels are different, and that both are also different from the ATL (90) and around £200 cheaper too, which may be a clue.

I don't want to say you're wrong ULP, but I don't know that you're right either.

Cheers,

Mike
 
Subject to the year of first registration.

upto March 01 (not sure of the date) VED is based on engine size after March 01 its based of CO2

eg.

Audi A2 TDI 75 registered in FEB 01.
below 1549cc = £120

Audi A2 TDI 75 registered in APR 01.
101-120 CO2 = £35
 
The 75 definitely is, not sure about the 90 but would guess so - and it'll go down to £20 in the new, new new car tax system they've quietly announced without anyone noticing (which also sees the £450 band re-worked again).
 
Variable Vain Turbo only seem to stick if you are gentle with the gas pedel all the time as they get coked up... this is because you are never opening the vains fully and when you want them there clogged.

So every now and then give it a boot; overtake something (roads/weather permitting)
 
dan_b said:
The 75 definitely is, not sure about the 90 but would guess so - and it'll go down to £20 in the new, new new car tax system they've quietly announced without anyone noticing (which also sees the £450 band re-worked again).
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Dan

Where did you find that information?
 
It was sort of not announced in the pre-budget report last week - everybody was focused on the big economy measures like VAT going down and income tax going up for high rate payers (but only after the next election).

Also not really covered was the fact that petrol duty will now go up by 2p, which neatly mirrors the loss of VAT revenue from petrol sales from the VAT reduction measure.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/news/a...d=458353&in_page_id=2&position=moretopstories

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/money/tax/article5247006.ece
 
Aah well spotted Ulp, I wan't exactly sure what the co2 output of the 75 was - I'll still take the £5 reduction!

It's fascinating how this was buried and received so little media coverage - the last proposed change to VED caused a media storm!
 
Thanks for the tax band info - my smart roadster is in the £35 tax band and an added bonus with getting a diesel a2 is to get the tax benefit.

(So I can laugh at the wife when she pays full price tax for her petrol a2 :D )
 
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