Catastrophe!! Fuel Pump and Glove box.

Barts134

Member
I bought my A2 new about 18 years ago and it's done just short of 190,000 miles, mostly around Glasgow. I've had a few repairs recently as a result of poor road
surfaces but yesterday I got back to the car to find a diesel leak. A pipe had become detached and the AA towed me to a garage in Duntocher. The mechanic said it was
a common fault in over 15 year old Audi's but had never seen a pump like it. Does anyone have experience of this and are there any available in the Club? Also the glovebox handle came away in my hand. The car's been great up till know.
Is it trying to tell me something
 

steve_c

A2OC Donor
You can buy a brand new fuel pump without any problem.

Current eBay listings:
Genuine VAG part (£420):

Pierburg at £235:

Febi at £372:

Bosch at £195:

It's absolutely essential to know what make of fuel pump you currently have fitted, and your engine code, before going ahead with any purchase since there are I believe potential problems swapping from one make of pump to another. I suspect that you'd attract more specialised expertise with this topic in the general forum rather than the wanted one @Special edition
 

steve_c

A2OC Donor
There are quite a few threads on this topic. Here's one I've picked at random:

The consensus seems to be that if you have an LUK pump, you're best off switching to a Bosch.

Since I don't run a diesel, you need better information than I can hope to offer. Just trying to help get the conversation started, and maybe assist.
 

2work

A2OC Donor
This link is what I’m about to use in the next few weeks to change mine.

Any addition assistance contributed will assist @Barts134 and of course me.

Kind regards,

Tom
 

RAB

Technical Specialist 1.2 TDI
Is it a case of the rubber tubing becoming detached or the connector parting from the pump? If the former, it's not the pump that's at fault.

RAB
 

audifan

A2OC Donor
As you have an AMF then if you need a new pump then buy the far superior Bosch unit rather than another LUK. It is a direct replacement for both the AMF and BHC engines but some adaptation / modification and further parts are required for the ATL engine. What concerns me is you saying a pipe has come off. Can you take a picture showing this and post it back here? In any case you now have diesel in the engine bay your rubber pipes will be getting eaten at a rapid rate, so protect what you can and expect to replace most if not all the rubber pipes. Another note when you buy the Bosch pump normally it does not come with the metal gasket which you need to obtain separately, just make sure you get a good OEM one with the little tracts of silicone. Do not waste your time or money trying to reseal the pump. Pretty sure A2Steve can help with the glovebox issue. Do not fit a used pump. Hopefully all you need is a few inches of replacement fuel pipe and some new rubber hoses.
 

Robin_Cox

Member
@Robin_Cox and @depronman may be able to advise on replacing the tandem pump.
Anything I will say should be checked with Paul (@depronman) because I resolved my diesel leak by not resolving it. All I can say is do the best deal you can find online to get a Bosch pump and oem-standard metal gasket, new bolts all round and get someone competent to fit it.

I did my best, and it still leaked (seepage from the gasket edge), even with a torque-measuring socket driver set to the correct settings based on recommendations from folk here who really know their stuff - so I have more or less given up since then on anything remotely complicated. I started to realise that my strengths now are more about being able to get good deals on parts online - my mechanical abilities are roughly inverse of these mathematically, sadly. Ironically on this same car, I believe I have just found another gem of a mechanic - about 100 yards from where I stay - who has tools to die for including a lift and some used more normally on large commercial vehicles. Finally fixed the utterly knackered alternator in just over an hour last week by cutting it in half and fitting the replacement - I had messed around for months with bigger levers, socket adaptors and so on that weren't having any effect getting it to shift the normal way - for not much in notes. Spent more time talking to him about cars and mechanics than he spent doing the repair on the day which opened me up to the sorts of work he enjoys doing, so now I am thinking about him being an ideal candidate for a 6-speed conversion as well as the oil pump chain and sprockets in the same job if I can get these off Ebay as well as the cable bracket. Have a few other things to do first mind you.
 

Jeetesh

Member
Glove box handle

assuming none of the parts are broken you may be able to line up the spring with tiny rod that sticks out and push the handle back into place (top first) and the bottom will snap back in.

Exactly the same happened on mine last week and It’s gone back on and works perfectly. Not sure if it’s because I have not opened the glovebox in 3+ months and it was red hot in the car? All is perfect and back to normal. Try this first before changing anything however if you want to upload pictures I can see how it compared to mine which mine came off.
 
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depronman

A2OC Donor
As you have an AMF then if you need a new pump then buy the far superior Bosch unit rather than another LUK. It is a direct replacement for both the AMF and BHC engines but some adaptation / modification and further parts are required for the ATL engine. What concerns me is you saying a pipe has come off. Can you take a picture showing this and post it back here? In any case you now have diesel in the engine bay your rubber pipes will be getting eaten at a rapid rate, so protect what you can and expect to replace most if not all the rubber pipes. Another note when you buy the Bosch pump normally it does not come with the metal gasket which you need to obtain separately, just make sure you get a good OEM one with the little tracts of silicone. Do not waste your time or money trying to reseal the pump. Pretty sure A2Steve can help with the glovebox issue. Do not fit a used pump. Hopefully all you need is a few inches of replacement fuel pipe and some new rubber hoses.
If I remember correctly the bhc and the atl both need the modified spacer to allow the Bosch pump to be fitted
Both these engines share the same egr and anti shudder valve assemblies
The amf uses a different combined ASV and EGR and as such you can fit the Bosch tandem pump directly in place of the LUK pump

Cheers. Paul


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cheechy

A2OC Donor
If I remember correctly the bhc and the atl both need the modified spacer to allow the Bosch pump to be fitted
Both these engines share the same egr and anti shudder valve assemblies
The amf uses a different combined ASV and EGR and as such you can fit the Bosch tandem pump directly in place of the LUK pump

Cheers. Paul


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yup ATL with Bosch pump sitting here in box for past 4 months! Thank you Covid-19!
 

Leopard680

A2OC Donor
Good morning all!
A few years ago, Alison had that dreaded smell of diesel in her Engine Bay. It was found that her Tandem Pump End Plate Gasket was leaking.

Various Garages told me that this meant a new 'Pump was needed. I did not buy this and after much searching, I found these helpful guys at Darwen Diesels.

I spoke to them and they were reassuringly patient with my many questions. I replaced the part myself. Three years and 45,000 miles later, there are still no leaks.


Alison has an AMF Power Unit with an LUK Tandem Pump.

I hope you find this information useful!
Kind regards, Stu 👍 😎
 
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