Fault 01435 ATE Teves mk60 ABS economical time/cost repair

Crap. Three years after the repair the problem has returned. I'll update once I've read the fault codes. This may lead to a warranty claim with BBA Reman. We'll see. Crap.
 
I know BBA reman parts have a lifetime warranty against the original repair but it's quite possible other non related faults could occur within 3 years.
After all, a brand new unit from Audi is only warranted for 2 years, so why not give BBA the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise.

Cheers Spike
 
It's just the frustration to go through this all over again...didn't mean to downgrade BBA Reman's work. I don't even know yet if the unit is faulty. Hopefully within a few days I'll have the car scanned for fault codes.
 
Well, it's the same song as before...

01435 Brake Pressure Sensor 1 (G201)
012 Electrical fault in circuit.

I'll contact BBA Reman and see what they have to say.
 
I've been instructed to send the part back to BBA-Reman for another look under their lifetime warranty so it will be on it's merry way back to the UK in a few days.
 
Should have done my homework about Sinspeed. They have a fancy website and has a point about the design flaw of the built in pressure sensor but there are bad reviews on the web about this company claiming it is a messy greasy place far from providing professional service and customer support. I would not dare to send my part to them after I've read the reviews. Unless you can check them out on the premises and meet the people and build your own opinion I would be very careful indeed.
 
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The main issue I have right now is that I don't know what the companies which offer to repair these parts actually do to them. I got the part back from BBA-REMAN three years ago, installed it and it worked fine until now. Once I get it back, who knows how long until the part fails again? If I knew what alternative methods or parts go into the repair it would make it easier to decide which company to choose for the repair. They all offer a limited lifetime warranty but to scan the car for fault codes, remove and install the part every three years or whatever it takes to fail again and send it back to be repaired, paying for the shipping both ways, having the car out of service for weeks is turning into a nightmare.
 
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So...got a call from BBA-REMAN saying the part has been repaired and ready to be shipped back to me. I asked what was wrong with it and was told it was the brake pressure sensor (as suspected of course) and the fix was said to rebond it (whatever that means). Did not go into details with the gentleman because I got the impression he was not the actual guy who did the repair (probably a customer relations person) or maybe he did not want to go into details about exactly what had been done. Company secrets of course. It was nevertheless interesting and hopefully the rebonding of the pressure sensor will this time be of a more permanent fix.
 
Crap, same song again.

01435 Brake Pressure Sensor 1 (G201)
012 Electrical fault in circuit.

Since the part is under lifetime warranty I sent an email on wednesday to BBE Reman but haven't got anything back yet.
 
Crap, same song again.

01435 Brake Pressure Sensor 1 (G201)
012 Electrical fault in circuit.

Since the part is under lifetime warranty I sent an email on wednesday to BBE Reman but haven't got anything back yet.
I believe companies, such as Reman do not use genuine OEM sensors. If the sensor is faulty, buy a genuine sensor and fit it. Mk1 TTs suffer from the same failure, and there's lots of reports that indicate only OEM sensors last. Your original lasted many, many years, if the first repair had used OEM, chances are it would have been the last repair.
Mac.
 
Does the fault clear (dash lights)
When you turn off and on ignition
No, the fault is permanent since the connection to the brake pressure sensor is lost. Stupid design to have it buried inside the hydraulic unit. The hydraulic unit can be swapped with a working unit without the need of reprogramming the ECU. Or the hydraulic unit can be repaired.
 
No, the fault is permanent since the connection to the brake pressure sensor is lost. Stupid design to have it buried inside the hydraulic unit. The hydraulic unit can be swapped with a working unit without the need of reprogramming the ECU. Or the hydraulic unit can be repaired.
Blast!
Thought as much with your connection fault!
I had a sporodic G201
Turned out to be brake light switch!

You should like you say have a lifetime warranty very strange its failed again and they have ignored you
 
If you think how many cycles the actual pressure sensor has gone through in 15, or more years, it should be no surprise that it can fail. A pressure sensor is, at heart, a mechanical thing, pressure acts on a diaphragm, the defection of which is turned into a voltage. You cannot remanufacture such a part. You can only replace it with the best available part.
Mac.
 
Blast!
Thought as much with your connection fault!
I had a sporodic G201
Turned out to be brake light switch!

You should like you say have a lifetime warranty very strange its failed again and they have ignored you
We'll see how it goes. They weren't that fast responding the last time either.
 
If you think how many cycles the actual pressure sensor has gone through in 15, or more years, it should be no surprise that it can fail. A pressure sensor is, at heart, a mechanical thing, pressure acts on a diaphragm, the defection of which is turned into a voltage. You cannot remanufacture such a part. You can only replace it with the best available part.
Mac.

I don't know exactly how BBA Reman does it but according to this link https://www.actronics.co.uk/acinsights/ate-mk60 the pressure sensor isn't replaced. I have copied and pasted some of the more relevant stuff below.

"As soon as the pressure sensor has been carefully dismantled, the connection wires are barely visible to the naked eye, they really are microscopically small. Due to temperature changes and vibrations it can occur that these fragile wires eventually break."

"Once disassembled, it is followed by a delicate process in which we disassemble the pressure sensor, open it, recondition the microscopic connections, replace the pressure sensor, and then extensive testing."

"To further protect the new connections, we apply a special gel that protects against both vibrations and temperature differences."
 
I don't know exactly how BBA Reman does it but according to this link https://www.actronics.co.uk/acinsights/ate-mk60 the pressure sensor isn't replaced. I have copied and pasted some of the more relevant stuff below.

"As soon as the pressure sensor has been carefully dismantled, the connection wires are barely visible to the naked eye, they really are microscopically small. Due to temperature changes and vibrations it can occur that these fragile wires eventually break."

"Once disassembled, it is followed by a delicate process in which we disassemble the pressure sensor, open it, recondition the microscopic connections, replace the pressure sensor, and then extensive testing."

"To further protect the new connections, we apply a special gel that protects against both vibrations and temiperature differences."
Yes I read that too. I have some knowledge of pressure sensors, and it's my personal opinion that repair, and return to the original spec, of a 15+ year old one that has seen, probably, close to 0.5 million cycles, is almost as difficult as NASA's Artemis project.
Mac.
 
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