Multi function steering wheel + poss flat bottom

@Special edition fitted a 3-spoke wooden steering wheel in an A2. Any photos, Dave?
I seem to remember people making naval comparisons. ?
Sorry Tom...no photos were ever taken although I do remember the Captain Pugwash references ?. Personally i wouldn't fit one now through experience ....too hot, sweaty and slippery to the touch in Summer and freezin in the winter. I ending up buying a steering wheel cover for it prior to removal and returning to stock.
 
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Firstly I’m not disagreeing!! But it can be done - @A2Steve used wooden trim from an A8 I think that looked great to me?
The results are here, and they look... like I expected.
As in: should one build their entire car around making them work, they could probably manage to.
@Special edition fitted a 3-spoke wooden steering wheel in an A2. Any photos, Dave?
I seem to remember people making naval comparisons. ?
From the thread:
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Hello again,

Some very direct questioning for the later style MFSW installation which I’ll not fully answer as it involves adapting the steering wheels airbag loom. It’s a subject that I’m not comfortable to fully share on as I’d hate someone to cause themselves or anyone else injury due to not completely understanding what’s involved with this particular retrofit. Adapting the wiring of airbags is not something I would recommend, but if ignored, then the work should only be conducted by a qualified professional who understands the potential hazards associated with these these devices.
"I do understand and agree wholeheartedly - can you think of what would happen if an airbag did not deploy in a crash, leaving only the car's structure to save you?", I say, at the wheel of a car with no airbag and a structure from a good decade before engineers learned that cars crash.
(And, lest I be misunderstood, I do mean it. Especially considering I'm looking into this for someone dear.)
Understanding a wiring diagram along with being competent with a solder iron is an absolute must.
pardon me
being competent
outsourcing it is.

Glad I was able to answer most of your questions, sorry I cannot assist further.
It was plenty, thank you loads! :D
 
Sorry to keep reviving this, but I have no better place to ask:
Where was this steering wheel implemented?
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Because as far as I got it this was the first style of steering wheel controls to include a dial (and either way it's the one I prefer), and I know it was featured on the Mk2 TT and Mk1 R8, but in both cases it had the aluminium surround going all around the controls, and in A3 and A4, but it had the rectangular ("grille-style"?) airbag.
Where was this one featured / where else did you get these controls and a round airbag?
 
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Just a thought, is that airbag definitely original to the wheel or might it have been retrofitted to a common mount? I don't know if that's even possible on that model of wheel, I'm hypothesizing because I'm sure it's been done with other wheels/airbags.

@timmus has probably seen more multi-function steering wheels than most of us ... any thoughts Tom?
 
Sorry to keep reviving this, but I have no better place to ask:
Where was this steering wheel implemented?View attachment 90210
Because as far as I got it this was the first style of steering wheel controls to include a dial (and either way it's the one I prefer), and I know it was featured on the Mk2 TT and Mk1 R8, but in both cases it had the aluminium surround going all around the controls, and in A3 and A4, but it had the rectangular ("grille-style"?) airbag.
Where was this one featured / where else did you get these controls and a round airbag?

Hello Mars,

I agree with Ian above that they don’t look like they are meant to be together but it could just be the way you’ve positioned the airbag on the steering wheel. It’s certainly the correct style of airbag for the steering wheel but I don’t take anything for granted as there are so many different incompatible items that first look to be ok but actually don’t fit.

If you were able to add the part numbers of both the steering wheel and airbag I will be able to let you know if they are compatible with each other. If for some reason the part numbers are not visible/illegible just add a picture of the rear of the airbag along with a picture of the steering wheel without the airbag.

Kind regards,

Tom
 
Just a thought, is that airbag definitely original to the wheel or might it have been retrofitted to a common mount? I don't know if that's even possible on that model of wheel, I'm hypothesizing because I'm sure it's been done with other wheels/airbags.
I agree with Ian above that they don’t look like they are meant to be together but it could just be the way you’ve positioned the airbag on the steering wheel.
If you were able to add the part numbers of both the steering wheel and airbag I will be able to let you know if they are compatible with each other.
I feel like I should clarify that that's not my picture. I just found one for sale in an ad for parts from (apparently) A3, A4, A6, S4, Q5, and Golf Mk5 and Mk6.
It should be noted that the airbag is just placed onto the wheel, not installed - as seen in the background of other pictures.
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Update: Through levels of research that would make you wince, I was able to figure out a model this steering wheel was used on (but if you know of others, which I suspect there are, do please chime in!):
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the second generation (or D3) A8, which used it in both 3 and 4 spokes.
While it made from 2002 to 2010, it later switched to the "grill-shaped" steering wheel style (as per below) at some point in its production run, which if pressed I'd pinpoint to April 2005.
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Also, it apparently is 375mm. Does anyone know the A2 wheels' size?
 
Hello again Mars,

Update: Through levels of research that would make you wince, I was able to figure out a model this steering wheel was used on (but if you know of others, which I suspect there are, do please chime in!):
audi-a8_d3_2004_09.jpg

the second generation (or D3) A8, which used it in both 3 and 4 spokes.
While it made from 2002 to 2010, it later switched to the "grill-shaped" steering wheel style (as per below) at some point in its production run, which if pressed I'd pinpoint to April 2005.
40-Audi-A8-D3-restyling-interni-960x545.

Also, it apparently is 375mm. Does anyone know the A2 wheels' size?
Yes this generation of steering is indeed from the A8 D3, great research. Before you consider purchasing either of these options above, have you investigated the associated airbag revisions they’re matched to and their deployment method.

Be aware that the A2 steering wheel airbag is a single stage deployment. To the very best of my knowledge the 4E0 880 201 airbags, regardless of revision are all dual stage deployment. There may be an installation method to overcome this which I guess the person you’re outsourcing this work to will be able to answer.

Please do as much research as possible before you commit to purchasing items.

Kind regards,

Tom
 
Have you investigated the associated airbag revisions they’re matched to and their deployment method?
Not yet, as I'm still far from the "ok, let's actually do this" stage, which is when I'd start worrying about it.
The A2 steering wheel airbag is a single stage deployment. To the very best of my knowledge the 4E0 880 201 airbags are dual stage - there may be an installation method to overcome this
I would assume so, given the later wheels (like the one @sciroccorrado showed) seem to be using the same airbag - and I'd safely put it past @timmus to leave a customer with an airbag that "may" work. Who knows, I may be a new customer for one of his trips through Italy! (Does he accept payments in nights at chalets?)

Your concern is very much appreciated, by the way!
 
Not yet, as I'm still far from the "ok, let's actually do this" stage, which is when I'd start worrying about it.

I would assume so, given the later wheels (like the one @sciroccorrado showed) seem to be using the same airbag - and I'd safely put it past @timmus to leave a customer with an airbag that "may" work. Who knows, I may be a new customer for one of his trips through Italy! (Does he accept payments in nights at chalets?)

Your concern is very much appreciated, by the way!

Morning again Mars,

The steering wheel that Jeremy shows has quite a revisions of airbag that are both single stage and dual stage deployment, choosing the correct item is easy enough but I don’t beleive this option is available to the specific steering wheels you show from the A8.

That said as you’re looking to outsource the work to other Tom, I’m confident he will be able to provide a safe adaptation of whatever you choose.

Kind regards,

Tom
 
Hi Mars,

The pertinent question is… where is the chalet!? :D
Around Cortina - not exactly there, but a short drive to it (which was the owner's daily commute). You'll know it to not be short on lovely hikes.
Fun fact: "One step from the sky" - a TV show that pulled some 24% share here, basically pretty nature with some plot to justify airing it - shot a couple scenes literally in its driveway.
I adore Italy. If pan-European coronavirus restrictions allow it, I hope to drive around Central Europe later in the year.
If you'll excuse me, a PSA for everyone here, which I'm told is definitely relevant to MFSWs:
My first trip behind the wheel was a week-long climb "up the boot" to get my new-to-me '81 Golf out its slumber and into my garage. Up to Rome it was just highway, but from it on, not one foot - and there is no contest in my mind for best days of my life. Every single mile felt like through random chance we'd found the prettiest stretch of road in the region. It felt like a Greatest Hits of all Europe.
If you plan a trip through Italy, avoid highways, at whatever is the cost. You will thank me.

If you do come around, we could suggest some landmarks - we've also explored Croatia our fair bit, and weren't disappointed - the kind of trip that gets good use out an OSS ;)
 
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@mars
This airbag was not only used in the A8 D3 but also in the RS4 B7 and the Lamborghini Gallardo (with different Logo of course).
This Airbag is 2 stage and not compatible in the A2, since the A2 has a 1-stage drivers airbag and only 1-stage airbag control module.
There are possibilities to make it work but this goes beyond do-it yourself methods...
 

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Okay, sorry to revive this once again - but I was curious: if the problem with that wheels is the airbag is dual stage and thus would be incompatible, couldn't one just... take the original wheel's airbag out and put it in the new one? I've asked @2work and he assures me that's what he did when he fit his wheel, but after researching this for... much longer than I should have I haven't found documentation of the swap from him nor anyone else's. So I pass the question unto you: is this a thing, have you seen it done, and where can I see it too?
Perchance @Skipton01 recalls how he fit his Mk2 TT wheel in his?
 
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couldn't one just... take the original wheel's airbag out and put it in the new one? I've asked @2work and he assures me that's what he did when he fit his wheel
Evening Mars,

I’m unable to confirm that the steering wheel in question (pictured in Post #37) has a single stage revision that will into it.

Correct buttons aside, what I personally did was initially use an A1/A6 round MFSW and obtained a compatible to the steering wheel, single stage airbag.

When I further upgraded to the A4/A5 FB type I obtained the correctly fitting single stage airbag.

This particular retrofit has recently been discussed on another thread by Fabrice @fbi. Have a chat with him as he might well have worked out answers to some of your questions.

Kind regards,

Tom
 
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