Pro Boost FSI remap

A2Steve

A2OC Donor
At the price that @A2Steve is indicating, it could well be a cost effective alternative to a manifold refurb, and N316 replacement, particularly on high mileage engines. The exchange facility would mean down time could be very short too. Certainly worthy of serious consideration.
Have to amend the tailgate moniker though, to FI!
Mac.
This is what I’m hoping. I would need to check, but I would think that as long as the flaps are not stuck in the closed position or any variance of, then the map could be a solution.
 

PlasticMac

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Yes a shame, mostly down to not understanding Fsi technology at dealer networks when problems arose and it was far easier to just delete the Stratified mode than own it. One day not too far of into the future good people on here will be able to understand the system diagnose and fix many of the problems and debunk some of the myths.
@Vorsprung durch Technik!
100% agree with your comment and sentiment.
I think we (those who want to, anyway), are well on the way to understanding the FSI engine, and in doing so, those myths will be debunked.

To 3000 revs, and beyond!

(Acknowledgements to Buzz Lightyear).

Mac.
 

timmus

A2OC Donor
Well done to all those who have conceived/developed/pursued this solution. Whilst there will be those who wish to keep their FSI running as it was originally intended, this software option has the potential to save countless FSIs from the scrap yard. As A2 enthusiasts, this is surely something we can all celebrate.

Cheers,

Tom
 

Kustard83

Member
Yes a shame, mostly down to not understanding Fsi technology at dealer networks when problems arose and it was far easier to just delete the Stratified mode than own it. One day not too far of into the future good people on here will be able to understand the system diagnose and fix many of the problems and debunk some of the myths.
I'll take the dig at the dealer network on the chin.I don't think it was a lack of knowledge that killed it,more like fuel used especially in this country,and the gains in fuel consumption was not that great for everyday use.Improvements in Software and material quality might make it work today.But Audi must have realised it limitations, reliability issues were not worth the effort.hence the problems that are being experienced today on older FSI be it A2,3,4. Were as the newerFSI without stratified are virtually bulletproof.
 

PlasticMac

Member
Ford also bet on lean burn technology, not just VAG. I guess the small capacity, turbo technology won out. Turbo is a word that would get the marketing folk excited, lean burn? Not so much is my guess. Advances in ECU power meant the good effects of turbo charging could be maximised, and the down sides minimised effectively. Engine hardware is less complex, and therefore cheaper too. Torque at low revs is an undeniable benefit of the turbo route.
Mac.
 
Well done to all those who have conceived/developed/pursued this solution. Whilst there will be those who wish to keep their FSI running as it was originally intended, this software option has the potential to save countless FSIs from the scrap yard. As A2 enthusiasts, this is surely something we can all celebrate.

Cheers,

Tom
Was thinking exactly that just now then read your post. If it saves a few more all the better for sure. 👍
 
I'll take the dig at the dealer network on the chin.I don't think it was a lack of knowledge that killed it,more like fuel used especially in this country,and the gains in fuel consumption was not that great for everyday use.
Nothing personal just stating the facts, there are many many disgruntled customers across the network.

Agree many Fsi owners might well have used less than the high octane fuel recommended and the long life service intervals didn't help.
 

Andrew

A2OC Donor
Afternoon Steve,

My first question of the day.

1. Is there any possibility of tailioring the map per ECU or is it a case of 'one size fits all'.

I am thinking about the lack of immobiliser after remap, it disturbs me, losing a security feature and the potential knock on to insurance premiums, usually something that must be declared.

IF it would be possible to not to touch the immobiliser function during remap I see two ways round this as it stands.

(a) the customer sends you their marked ECU, after all many have the use of more than one car while the car it came from is out of action and it's only for a week or two.
(b) use a stock ECU, which will have an unkown mobiliser code. On return of the ECU I don't think it takes much to retrieve the code and program a virgin immobiliser chip in the the fob(s), if you have the knowledge and kit/software or engage professional help, e.g. Tom or others. Need to check this is feasible.

Obviously best for now not to complicate the arrangement with Pro Boost but it would be good to know from Pro Boost if this is feasible for later down the line.

Andy
 

Andrew

A2OC Donor
My second question of the day concerns the statement

Reduction of the coolant temperature from 105-100c to 90-96c to prevent the plastic coolant pipes from cracking.

Putting aside the small loss of efficiency from the higher temperature function and the new benefits I immediately think to make sense the current FSI thermostat must be replaced (not a 5 minute job on an FSI!) by a new thermostat of the correct spec, to say nothing of the redundant electrical connection (or is it redundant?) or indeed can the FSI thermostat be retained?

Thoughts? - Andy
 
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A2Steve

A2OC Donor
Afternoon Steve,

My first question of the day.

1. Is there any possibility of tailioring the map per ECU or is it a case of 'one size fits all'.

I am thinking about the lack of immobiliser after remap, it disturbs me, losing a security feature and the potential knock on to insurance premiums, usually something that must be declared.

IF it would be possible to not to touch the immobiliser function during remap I see two ways round this as it stands.

(a) the customer sends you their marked ECU, after all many have the use of more than one car while the car it came from is out of action and it's only for a week or two.
(b) use a stock ECU, which will have an unkown mobiliser code. On return of the ECU I don't think it takes much to retrieve the code and program a virgin immobiliser chip in the the fob(s), if you have the knowledge and kit/software or engage professional help, e.g. Tom or others. Need to check this is feasible.

Obviously best for now not to complicate the arrangement with Pro Boost but it would be good to know from Pro Boost if this is feasible for later down the line.

Andy
There is the option of sending your ECU off to Proboost yourself to have your own ECU mapped.

1. This would cost £255 plus the cost of postage to and from Germany (around £25 tracked and secure).

2. I’m not sure on the turnaround time of one ecu being mapped at a time with Pro Boost, but I would imagine you would be a around 10-12 days without the use of your car.

I don’t stand to gain financially from the sale of these maps; I just want us all to catch up with what the German guys have had for years.
 

A2Steve

A2OC Donor
My second question of the day concerns the statement

Reduction of the coolant temperature from 105-100c to 90-96c to prevent the plastic coolant pipes from cracking.

Putting aside the small loss of efficiency from the higher temperature function and the new benefits I immediately think to make sense the current FSI thermostat must be replaced (not a 5 minute job on an FSI!) by a new thermostat of the correct spec, to say nothing of the redundant electrical connection (or is it redundant?) or indeed can the FSI thermostat be retained?

Thoughts? - Andy
Nothing needs to be changed except for the ECU, no electrical connectors need to be undone or become redundant. Every benefit will be provided from the map alone.

This mod will take less than 10 minutes to fit, start to finish.
 

spike

Well-Known Member
Realise it would be more work for someone, and extra postage costs for participants but would it be feasible to source a spare ecu and have the immobiliser function removed. That could become a 'loan' unit to keep the car on the road while the original is away being mapped.
Cost could be shared by everyone preferring to retain the immobiliser feature - and may even be a cheaper option than declaring the 'anti theft delete' to the insurance company

Cheers Spike
 
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