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A2 1.4 Petrol. Has anyone comes across a sporadic runaway heater? Normally the climate control works fine but every so often it goes mad and blasts out really hot air for several miles. The only way around the problem is to close down all vents and open the windows and wait for the system to regain it's senses. Any ideas anyone?
Thanks
Mike
 
It's probably the temperature control flap. Frequent problem with A2s and either sticks on HOT or coooooold. Best thing to do as a cheap test is to put the climate on full fan, then go from HI to LO to HI to LO to HI to LO again a few times. This should loosen the flap. I tend to do this once a month to keep the system moving.

Failing this WOM Automotive know a way of "lubricating" the flap to sort out seriously sticking systems. But try it yourself for a start.
 
I will try the exercising of the flap. There is no error reported on the Can Scan so I don't know what that tells me about the problem.

Thanks both.
 
Problems with the flap motors almost always are caused by electrical problems inside the motor unit. If the climate control computer detects any problem it disables the motor to prevent the motor from breaking the flap mechanism. This obviously manifests itself in the flap staying in position, but its not "stuck" in a mechanical sense, just switched off. When a motor is disabled, this is reset when the power is turned off.

The most common reason for this is wear in the position sensing potentiometer. The temperature flap is the most likely to wear out first as this flap moves a compete travel from end to end each time the car is driven.

Sometimes the electrical contact can be intermittent and only fail when the car is driven due to the vibration of traveling on the road. This can make the flap motor appear OK when its tested with the car stationary but get "stuck" (disabled) when the car is taken on the road. As the temperature flap is moved to full heat when the engine is cold, if there is an intermittent problem, it will be disabled in this position after setting off and cook the occupants when the engine warms up!

The only solution is either repair or replacement. I don't know of anyone who has performed a successful repair.
Unfortunately, "exercising" the flaps doesn't really help as the motors aren't stuck. It only adds to the wear!

Luckily they are easy to change.

Some basic fault readers won't report faults recorded in the climate control module so your "Can Scan" may not be giving you the full picture.

Where are you located? There may be a member close by willing to help you with a VCDS scan?

warm regards

Andrew
 
Many thanks Andrew for such an expansive and detailed explanation of what is likely to be wrong. The guy who runs an independent Audi service/repair garage here in Dunstable, UK is always reliable but this one has him foxed. I will take the explanation to him and see if he can scan with his more sophisticated instrument. The hot air in winter is slightly more bearable than in the warmer summer months but it does need fixing!

Thanks very much.

Mike
 
Many thanks Andrew for such an expansive and detailed explanation of what is likely to be wrong. The guy who runs an independent Audi service/repair garage here in Dunstable, UK is always reliable but this one has him foxed. I will take the explanation to him and see if he can scan with his more sophisticated instrument. The hot air in winter is slightly more bearable than in the warmer summer months but it does need fixing!

Thanks very much.

Mike

Hi,

thanks. This did happen to me too. The motor worked when the car was stationary, but failed when it was driven, or when it was tapped or squeezed - the motor that is. It did provide the experience of driving in snow with all the windows wound down! A new one cured it.

https://www.a2oc.net/community/inde...ol-and-windscreen-demister-flap-motors.23714/

I also did some research on the climate unit. Lots of pictures here:

https://www.a2oc.net/community/index.php?threads/anatomy-of-the-a2-climate-unit.25089/

regards

Andrew
 
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