Temp 0 degrees

Elpres

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Hi guys, I took my wife’s a2 tdi for a spin, around 30 minutes of mixed driving and outside temp is 0°.
The engine temp gauge stayed at 0°.
I searched a bit in here to find out what to do, but dident quite find an answer.
Is it the thermostat maybe?
There was plenty of hot air from the vents in the cabin.
Any pointers?
 
if you start up and drive a tdi straight away without allowing a warm up period it will take an age to heat up I would allow car to idle and monitor the guage possibly for half hour with no heaters blowing (heater fan blowing acts like a cooling fan ) possible stat jammed open but I would monitor it first as said , also if you have access to vcds then you can watch the engine temp via measuring blocks for engine which the guage should start moving afrter 50 odd degrees, other possibility is the temp switch has failed
 
Thank you so much Mark.
I did the 30 min test u described, and here 39 minutes after, its 90° hot. So it all works.
Incredible how cold these engines runs. Thanks again.
 
compared to conventional engines theres 1 less cylinder so 1 less explosion so less heat to dissipate , that's my theory why they take so long for warm up
 
Mine maxes out at around 75 on a motorway trip...It has been suggested its a a problem with thermostat (1.4 TDI)
 
Mine maxes out at around 75 on a motorway trip...It has been suggested its a a problem with thermostat (1.4 TDI)
Yes, almost certainly is the thermostat and worth doing soon because your engine will not "like" running cool, it causes proiblems, no rush, but it would be worth doing soon.

Steve B
 
Mine maxes out at around 75 on a motorway trip...It has been suggested its a a problem with thermostat (1.4 TDI)

I've noticed this on my 'new' A2 also - temp gauge maxes out at 73ish.

How quick a job is putting in a new thermostat?
 
Suggesting to check temp with VCDS. In my case dash was showing lower temp than ECU and changing the temp sensor solved the problem.
 
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Thanks Vic. Had a look into this and it seems quite an expensive / complex bit of kit.

The bluetooth OBDEleven kit looks interesting though.
 
Following advice from others here I did my thermostat at Easter. If you don't, in cold weather the engine never gets properly to temperature (~70 degrees max depending on how hard you're pushing) and will be using much richer fuel maps among other things. Having done it once I could do it in around 15-20 minutes now. You need to remove the engine sound cover and boost pipe to gain space. The worst problem is getting to the screws holding the thermostat housing into the block next to the alternator. Long ball-headed allen keys (Lidl) and a curved 10mm ratchet spanner with a 1/4" socket adaptor were required tools to get into the space available. I couldn't get the coolant pipe off the plastic housing that goes over the thermostat as the jubilee clip holding it in place was in the wrong orientation, so I just undid the housing and released it, breaking off thermostat retention fingers in doing so. The thermostat was held in the block by the big o-ring ; once the o-ring was dislodged, the thermostat came out readily along with a couple of pints of coolant. I tried using the workshop manual method of pre-locating the new stat and o-ring in the pipe housing, but couldn't get it to sit into the block properly with the hose still being attached, so instead put the new stat and o-ring into the block, then fitted the housing onto it, re-installed the screws by fingertips in the space available until I could get tools in. Finally, topped the coolant circuit up, bled at the radiator nipple and then the expansion tank lid. Replaced the coolant sensor 3 months later, which eventually solved the temperature issues I suffered all last winter (both a knackered stat and a dodgy sensor).

Any half-decent ODB reader will do what you need - I use an Xtool VAG 405 which I found conveniently also does throttle body adaptations, but I used it a lot for reading temperatures (engine sensor and dashboard sensor) this spring.
 
If you are going to get diagnostics then go for VCDS. There is a free version that will let you do some functions with the cheap cable on ebay. For full diagnostics then the full version is required. Try to find someone local to scan for beer tokens. Any body with low temp issues now is the time to replace the thermostat and temp sensor, not too expensive but go for oem quality. Plenty of threads on here to change thermostat and temp sensor and while you are there may as well change the coolant with fresh G12 and its later versions ONLY. DO NOT USE ANT OTHER COOLANT ESPECIALLY THE BLUE TYPE. Thermostat and sensor change with coolant change allow a couple of hours. Faulty thermostat then the ECU is reading low temp and putting more fuel in. Sensor faulty, depends on which circuit one feeds the gauge so looks cooler that it is the other feeds the ecu so same as faulty thermostat.
 
Thanks guys. Popping into my local Audi on Tuesday so think I'll get the thermostat and sensor ordered while I'm there and find some time next weekend to sort it out ?
 
Make sure you get a new o ring for the thermostat a new o ring for the temp sensor and buy a spare c clip for the temp sensor. Remember to get coolant G12 and above only.
 
Thermostat from Audi costs £27.50! Bit of a shock after seeing one for £7 on Euro Car Parts...

They were trying to sell me the pipe/housing it sits in for another £10 - worth it?

Temp sensor charged at £42.50.

It seems to make sense to just get these done, but will look into some diagnostic kit in the future.

I'm based in Fleet if anyone fancies plugging it in!
 
Here are some pictures of that housing and the stat. Ignore some of the details on the housing as they are showing all versions.

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– Unscrew bolts -arrows- and remove hose connection.
– Turn thermostat clockwise through approx. 90° (1/4 turn) and remove thermostat from hose connection.
– Remove O-ring.
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Installing
Installation is carried out in the reverse order; note the following:
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Note
Renew O-ring.
– Clean and smoothen sealing surface for O-ring as required.
– Insert thermostat -3- with new O-ring -2- into hose connection -1-.
l When inserting, the cross-piece on the thermostat should be horizontal as shown in the illustration.
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– Lubricate O-ring -2- with coolant additive “G12+”.
– Turn thermostat anti-clockwise -arrow- through approx. 90° (1/4 turn).
– Fill cooling system

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Bottom picture shows temp sensor. IT IS NOT LOCATED HERE, IT IS ON THE RIGHT SIDE ENGINE BLOCK.
 
That's really helpful - thanks!

Looks like the housing is pretty sturdy, I'll check it's condition before I order a new one.
 
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