Right hand side lower arm console
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Little Dog
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Try one of the A2 breakers on here.
Thanks Phil, I might need to go down that route , would prefer a new one. Are any of the polo ones a perfect fit as I'm sure I've heard in the last they are
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It appears that the equivalent Polo part is the same casting - there is at least one member here who found that the console fitted on his car was a 6Q part rather than the 8Z-coded component without issue. These are (or certainly were last year) readily available online unlike the 8Z parts, although obviously you need to get the right one depending on which engine you have (the difference appears to be the bushing that is used rather than an overall shape change). @hadi - which engine do you have?
For my 1.4Tdi I bought the following pair from the spareshut Ebay store - obviously there are other sources. I've not used them but they are in my collection for the future.
For my 1.4Tdi I bought the following pair from the spareshut Ebay store - obviously there are other sources. I've not used them but they are in my collection for the future.
For Skoda Fabia MK1 1999-2008 Front Right Wishbone Suspension Bracket Arm | eBay
Fits Skoda Fabia 1999-2008.
www.ebay.co.uk
For VW Polo 9N 2001-2009 Front Left Wishbone Suspension Bracket Arm | eBay
Fits VW Polo 2001-2009.
www.ebay.co.uk
It appears that the equivalent Polo part is the same casting - there is at least one member here who found that the console fitted on his car was a 6Q part rather than the 8Z-coded component without issue. These are (or certainly were last year) readily available online unlike the 8Z parts, although obviously you need to get the right one depending on which engine you have (the difference appears to be the bushing that is used rather than an overall shape change). @hadi - which engine do you have?
For my 1.4Tdi I bought the following pair from the spareshut Ebay store - obviously there are other sources. I've not used them but they are in my collection for the future.
For Skoda Fabia MK1 1999-2008 Front Right Wishbone Suspension Bracket Arm | eBay
Fits Skoda Fabia 1999-2008.www.ebay.co.ukFor VW Polo 9N 2001-2009 Front Left Wishbone Suspension Bracket Arm | eBay
Fits VW Polo 2001-2009.www.ebay.co.uk
It's a 1.4 tdi amf engine I believe
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michael ashton
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You can just fit new rubber mounts to your existing console if you wish a press will be needed but make sure that the replacement is pessed back into the same orientation as the original. Regards Mike
to expand on this - the rubber inserts have a hexagonal hole in the centre that the (hexagonal-section) end of the suspension arm inserts into. There is a diagram in the workshop manual that defines the exact orientation of the bushing as it is pressed into the console so that the hex section is at the correct angle. Pages 28-32 or so in the manual. The manual also makes it clear that the nature of the lubricant used for the bushing insertion process is critical as the wrong type can result in the bush spinning instead of flexing with suspension movement.
Little Dog
A2OC Donor
You need a jig to support the console. Otherwise the press will crush the console. I mangled one without much effort.
Edit, from memory the bush is bonded into a steel tube. There is an interference fit between the console and the tube. The issue to overcome is galvanic corrosion causing aluminium oxide to grip and hold the bush in position.
If you go down the repair route I would try drilling out the rubber then sawing through the steel. Should be able to get it out them. Replacement could be achieved with two cups and a threaded rod after a good clean up. All theoretical but that would be my approach if I attempted the job again.
Alternatively, guess which Polo weighs about the same over the front axle and fit. Providing the casting is the same the only thing that could be slightly out is the rigidity of the bush.
In my experience the wrong Polo rubber, dog bone, is better than worn out correct Audi.
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I'm seriously tempted to buy that eBay one listed in a post above , just worried I take a day off work to get it done , only to receive a phone call saying it doesn't fit , then I'm in a whole world of £40 a day taxi to work scenario , which would then probably result in me getting rid of the car
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Catnip64
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What’s the reason for changing the console, is your existing unit damaged or are you just replacing the wishbone and want to avoid any complications? It may be simpler to confirm that the bolt for the front wishbone mount can be loosened successfully and then just source a new/used wishbone.
Does you car use cast or pressed arms?
Does you car use cast or pressed arms?
Little Dog
A2OC Donor
Check it out, the bush looks significantly different. You haven't said what is wrong with the one one the car, they are bomb proof.
I'm changing the arm which I've had sitting for quite a while and when I contacted tps they informed me audi stopped production of the consoles in late 2020 , I'm changing the console as the hole the bolt is in isn't a " blind hole" so water and salt get in and a common problem is when you withdraw the bolt the threads turn to powder and I can't take the chance if that happening and the cars stuck in a workshop for a week or so
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Little Dog
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I lost one console to the dreaded aluminium oxide cement. The second I killed in my press.
My advice would be to try the bolts. If they don’t come free and bind constantly then you have a problem. Torque them up again and order the consoles. If they come out once they have started moving then you have saved a stack of money. Just run a tap down the thread before reassembly.
My advice would be to try the bolts. If they don’t come free and bind constantly then you have a problem. Torque them up again and order the consoles. If they come out once they have started moving then you have saved a stack of money. Just run a tap down the thread before reassembly.
Little Dog
A2OC Donor
Even if the threads are wrecked a decent engineering shop could coil the female threads.
Just to chime in. I’ve just changed the two wishbones on my 2002 tdi. No problem with any of the bolts. They all came out fine. You may be lucky. I do wish I had bought the kit on eBay for pushing out the bush for 50 odd pound though. We managed by gripping the console in the vice and tapping it out with a socket. Not ideal but it worked ok. Remember to mark the orientation before removing the bush.
I fear the further north the car has lived the more salt corrosion will none in the threads , my cars spent it's life in Ayr and around Glasgow
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Little Dog
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It’s not salt in the threads it is aluminium oxide. On the bolts you have to remove it forms, due to salt water ingress on the first couple of threads. It is so hard that it destroys the remainder of the thread as the bolt is removed making the thread oversize. My new consoles were sealed with engine silicone at the open end.
You are correct that further North the problem is greater and especially so if the car has been driven on motorway or fast A roads.
You are correct that further North the problem is greater and especially so if the car has been driven on motorway or fast A roads.