AMF clutch friction plate

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Little Dog

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My clutch judders a little so I suspect a minor oil leak at the main crank seal. I will be needing a clutch. This one came attached to the AMF I'm preparing:

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It looks quite meaty to me, I have 8mm overall thinness and 2mm of friction material above the rivets. I've checked the manual and can't find a spec. I have two questions:

How thick is a new AMF clutch plate, if somebody has one could they measure it please?

What brands of clutch were supplied to Audi?

Thank you
 
I always though the original clutch was manufactured by Sachs but I've never had to replace one yet to find out for sure (he says touching wood) but there's obviously also the possibility that different clutch manufacturers were used over the 6 or so years of production too
 
@audifan thank you I did think perhaps Sachs or LUK. I asked because I thought it would not be Borg and Beck,especialy with gearbox side printed on in English. I need a new clutch and I have a new clutch, there are just the issues that Howey raised to consider.
 
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Thanks @Howey for the tip off. I did think Borg and Beck were a reputable Brand that have lost favour. A search around the internet quickly found negative reports of Borg and Beck and the explanation:

"Borg & Beck used to be a really good quality clutch manufacturer, being the oem supplier to many car companies and even supplied F1 teams.

However, they closed in the early 2000's and the brand name got bought by an aftermarket outsourcing business, who just use it to put a shine on the cr4p they get from whoever is making the cheapest."

I've not found my way back to the to the articles but the constant negative reports were around 10 years old and have rumbled on since. I've come across the occasional positive comment in recent articles. The dilemma I have is; have they got their act together sufficiently for a low mileage driver who is lite on clutches to get by without any issues? I'll sleep on this one I think.

Interestingly I came across this comment regarding Quinton Hazell:

"Sir Quinton Hazell died in 1996 and QH Ltd went bust in 2013.
Again a lot of the brands that they owned got sold-off and are being used for other products"

This is a brand I really don't trust, the AMF I'm preparing has a low mileage QH timing belt and water pump. I've already decided to replace it with my Gates pump (same mileage) and a Febi belt kit I bought before I scoped my existing engine. Wondered if you have experience of QH?
 
Quinton Hazel "old stock" parts like water pumps were held in high regard but these days like you said they are trading on a old name so it's somewhat of a parts lottery I haven't used their stuff in recent years but it's usually well priced so tempting

The tired format A2 had a borg and beck clutch fitted, seems they operate fine just rattle on idle

Personally I don't use febi on parts which would cause me a headache if they failed, so I will use febi bushes and drop links but little else as seen too many premature failures including my late brothers car (passat B5) which I had fitted a genuine top arm and a febi one, a few years down the road but not many miles the febi arm tore out of the casing almost causing a major accident but the genuine arm was like brand new. Others love febi thou so please take as you find!
 
Fully check the replacement against what you take out. Even if you buy it from an Audi specialist supplier.

When I changed the clutch in my 827 Coupe in June I chose to go to Rimmer Brothers for it as they are THE place for Jag, Land-rover,Triumph,BL,Rover etc. It was £100 more, but I didn't mind as I don't intend to ever sell the car.
When I fitted it all back together, the bite point was literally on the floor.
I thought the problem was a leak. Massive bleed issues, swapped the master cylinder body for another with a rebuild kit. Then rebuilt slave. Then replaced the slave. Then put new master piston in original body.
With a bleed between each...
Final straw was pulling the box back out to check I hadn't fitted the clutch wrong in the first place.
It didn't match the one I took out (I hadn't visually checked it.....) but was very similar.
The build stack height was different.
Rimmers response when I told them was initially "its the listed item, its correct, it matches the ones on our shelves"
They did refund me though. I went there with the old one and showed them. I had to order one from Rockauto.com in the states. I had that shipped to my friends in Kansas who then did a video call with me to visually check it matched my old one, and they shipped it to me from there.
Rimmers are in conversation with their supplier and may need my old one to send to them.
Which is annoying as I wanted to make a clock from the friction plate. It was SO thin, I had a fag paper thickness left before the rivets touched the flywheel. Plate side, they were touching and wore a 1mm groove in it!

I finally got my Coupe back on the road on Monday, after nearly 5 months off the road.
 
@Phil_B that is good advice thank you. However, I'm at the moment not planning to buy a new clutch. The Borg and Beck clutch came off a replacement engine I bought from a member. He drove the car before removing the engine so I'm confident I can use this almost new clutch when I install the replacement engine.
I will however compare it to the clutch that comes out of the car.
 
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