Bottom line?

[jmckie1]

I refuse to believe the dealers profit margin on the car is only £500. I don't know what the margin is on most new cars of a similar price but that sounds like a load of bo**ocks to me.
I reckon most dealers would just refuse to sell the car if that's all the manufacturer can give them as a profit margin.

Jamie.

 

[msmorley]

quote:Originally posted by Karcsi

How does that work? Did you get the car for the same bottom price, but with an effective higher discount because the climate and met paint were calculated at their normal prices?

Funny you should ask - I only saw a breakdown of the price when I was collecting the car and, being a little excitable at the time, I was paying scant attention to the paperwork. I must have a copy of the invoice somewhere, though. [:I]
IIRC the list price for my car was ~£17500 and I paid ~£16000. The DtD website allows you to select the ECC/paint option at £250 but the notes for the A2 on the site say that this option will, infact, cost £750 - still £500 off the LP for those options, though. So, as you say, the discount - over and above that you can get from any dealer wrt. ECC/paint - is in the region of £1000.

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What's the auto dimming rear view mirror like? Any use? Does it ever get confused and dim during the daytime, or when your passenger switches on the courtesy light to read a map?

To be honest I've not noticed it working - or perhaps I should say, I've not noticed it not working which, I guess, is the point of having it [8D]. It has never dimmed during daytime - I suspect it is able to sense the ambient light level in some fashion... perhaps it can use the light sensors in the stereo's fasica? Fortunately, the wife hasn't switched on the courtesy light to try reading a map: wife-nav is markedly inferior to sat-nav . I've got a torch in the car - I'll try it this evening just to make sure it actually does something... [8)]


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m. Azure Blue 2003 1.6 FSI SE | OpenSky | ECC | DIS | Isofix | ERW | Symphony II (duff) | Space-Floor-Box | Winter Pack | Auto-Dimming Rear View thingy...

 

[JohnW]

Hello Folks,
I recently had a 1.6FSI (500miles on clock)on loan whilst my TDI was in for attention.Very quiet and refined was the immediate impact, but I'm afraid I could'nt live with one.Compared to the Tdi it felt flat and uninspiring. At 40mph in top gear I could put my foot flat to the boards and nothing would happen for ages.Revved in the gears it was a different matter and went well, but overtaking needed to be thought about due the massive flat spot. Having said that the engine would not protest at 30 mph in top whereas the Tdi will. Although of course the Tdi is much higher geared. The engine felt strangled and needed to be booted to get anywhere,particularly when joining traffic.Funnily enough the engine responded better when cold. Yes,the car felt a little sanitized compared to the Tdi. I prefer the character of my Tdi(warts and all)
All very subjective of course, so it's best to try them both,and at least for a couple of hours or so,each.
Regards JohnW 2002 Tdi SE.

 

[Karcsi]

I agree with you completely, JohnW. I'm a td person at heart. I like the noise because I can here there's something under the bonnet, and the pure strength in the engine from low revs and all through the rev range nothing but a large capacity petrol engine can match.

I would not want to own a petrol engine with less that 6 cylinders and 200hp, because otherwise I find them pretty asthmatic.

I do not like to have to rev an engine into submission in order to get something semi-decent from it. The FSI is pretty much like that.

 

[EF MAX]

Interesting to read the various experiences of others here.

As far as deals go I have just ordered a new A2, via the internet from some place down in Brighton and the deal was as follows –

A2 Tdi Sport in Pearl Metallic Black, full leather sports seats, electric lumbar support, heated front seats, cruise control, electric climate control, control pack and a tow bar.. all for

£16,100 with a delivery date of about 6 weeks.

My local Audi dealer only offered me a short test drive, was unwilling to give me longer even though I left a seriously nice sports car on their forecourt and was not willing to haggle on price,, actually they offered me a an A2 1.4 SE with ECC and met/paint for £15K+..

I feel my deal from a complete stranger that I have never met has proved so far to be honest and rewarding.

 

[Neil P]

I'm thought you can't have open sky and the auto dimming rear view mirror together - we tried to order these together but was informed it wasn't possible, so we went for the open sky - has this changed?

Neil - Aug 02 1.4SE Petrol. Brilliant Blue. Yellow/Black Interior, Symphony, Open Sky, Climate, DIS, Multi-function wheel

 

[Karcsi]

Looks like Audi dealers want it both ways - make a shed load on the car new and then again when you p/x it. Nice.

 

[msmorley]

quote:Originally posted by Neil P

I'm thought you can't have open sky and the auto dimming rear view mirror together

Very odd... I certainly have both: perhaps the combination is only available for 2003 model cars... or, more likely, your dealer was talking out of his exhaust pipe []
In reply to Karcsi's earlier question: the dimming function seems to be disabled altogether when the courtesy lights are switched on.

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m. Azure Blue 2003 1.6 FSI SE | OpenSky | ECC | DIS | Isofix | ERW | Symphony II (duff) | Space-Floor-Box | Winter Pack | Auto-Dimming Rear View thingy...

 

[deheld]

quote:Originally posted by msmorley

quote:Originally posted by Neil P

I'm thought you can't have open sky and the auto dimming rear view mirror together

Very odd... I certainly have both: perhaps the combination is only available for 2003 model cars... or, more likely, your dealer was talking out of his exhaust pipe []

This was in my Audi brochure too....The combination of Opensky and Dimming Mirror wasn't possible..

Dennis de Held

Amulet Red 1.4 Tdi

 

[Karcsi]

Maybe it was a regulation brought about by the Dutch government as they deemed it a contradiction to have both: opensky showing your affinity for light; dimming mirror protesting at it's existence.