J3FVW
Member
Earlier today I started a new thread in the classified section of this forum. This thread was titled ADVANCE NOTICE Soon selling ‘02 1.4 petrol SE (apologies if there are any factual errors in the title I have just stated).
Unfortunately my thread has now been deleted, I believe, on the grounds that I was fishing for sales.
I am sure that many members read the original post in the thread and several liked it. You may recall that it was originally posted without a price. The reason being that the car is not in the condition I would want to pass it to a new owner (it is currently in my garage where it has been since February 2017 so needs a little work to get it to a state where I could hold my head high passing ownership on). From memory I said that interested parties should follow (by this I meant subscribe to) my thread so that when I posted up to date pictures and a price they would be the first to know. I do not see anything wrong in that.
My post also went on to state that I have a large stock of quality and in some cases rare parts that I would also be selling, again when I post pictures and prices. My request to follow (subscribe to) the thread also applied. Again this seems reasonable.
I was contacted by the moderation team asking me to add a price to my thread (although my post went on to say that it wasn’t really an ad at this point - note the title ADVANCE NOTICE). Immediately I added a price to the car but not to the following paragraphs outlining the parts that would be available to buy once I had posted the pictures and prices. I simply do not know at the present moment what prices to add to most of the items I have and given the large stock I have amassed it will take time to photograph, price and list all of them. As the title clearly said in block capitals it was an advance notice that the mentioned parts plus many others would be going on sale soon.
At no point did I invite offers or seek to incite a bidding war as has subsequently been suggested. I acknowledge that my thread was not conventional but it explicitly instructed members of the action to take should they be interested in my car and associated spare parts when they were in a saleable state.
I am furious that my thread has been deleted and now see this as a matter of principle. In words which have already been relayed to one or more members of the moderation team I feel I have been tried and convicted of a crime I have not committed.
A request for a more formal notice of the stance from the moderation team has not been forthcoming. Although it goes against how I would wish to conduct myself in this situation I now feel the need to ask for that stance to be made public and to highlight the specifics of my perceived wrong doing so that in future remaining members do not suffer the same treatment.
If, hand on heart, I felt I had conducted myself in a manner that deserved my post being deleted then I absolutely would not have spent the last few hours arguing my case in robust terms and now composing this post.
My mind is made up and my A2 is going to be sold whether it is on this forum or elsewhere. As my thread clearly stated this is solely because I wish to move onto a different project car - no other reason. As such I would have been ending my association with the club in the near future anyway but I am now going to leave it with a very bitter taste in my mouth.
I never thought I would have an axe to grind with those who give up their time to oversee the club for the benefit of everyone else but this episode really has pushed all my wrong buttons.
Thank you to everybody I have had the pleasure of positive dealings with and unless the “team” give me the courtesy of a reply in the next few days I will be deleting my account.
This isn’t an attempt to gain sympathy or calls for me to change my mind - it is somebody taking a stand against something which they totally and utterly disagree with.
I have witnessed some extremely unsavoury behaviour on this forum over the past twelve months and on one occasion made a strong statement about it in defence of those wronged. My next big statement will be the deletion of my account.
Such a shame as there are many on this forum whose help has been genuinely and deeply appreciated but I’m not one to suffer fools gladly so in the next day or two I expect to bid you all farewell unless the “team” alter their stance.
Thank you for taking the time to read my post regardless of what conclusions you draw from it.
Jeff
Unfortunately my thread has now been deleted, I believe, on the grounds that I was fishing for sales.
I am sure that many members read the original post in the thread and several liked it. You may recall that it was originally posted without a price. The reason being that the car is not in the condition I would want to pass it to a new owner (it is currently in my garage where it has been since February 2017 so needs a little work to get it to a state where I could hold my head high passing ownership on). From memory I said that interested parties should follow (by this I meant subscribe to) my thread so that when I posted up to date pictures and a price they would be the first to know. I do not see anything wrong in that.
My post also went on to state that I have a large stock of quality and in some cases rare parts that I would also be selling, again when I post pictures and prices. My request to follow (subscribe to) the thread also applied. Again this seems reasonable.
I was contacted by the moderation team asking me to add a price to my thread (although my post went on to say that it wasn’t really an ad at this point - note the title ADVANCE NOTICE). Immediately I added a price to the car but not to the following paragraphs outlining the parts that would be available to buy once I had posted the pictures and prices. I simply do not know at the present moment what prices to add to most of the items I have and given the large stock I have amassed it will take time to photograph, price and list all of them. As the title clearly said in block capitals it was an advance notice that the mentioned parts plus many others would be going on sale soon.
At no point did I invite offers or seek to incite a bidding war as has subsequently been suggested. I acknowledge that my thread was not conventional but it explicitly instructed members of the action to take should they be interested in my car and associated spare parts when they were in a saleable state.
I am furious that my thread has been deleted and now see this as a matter of principle. In words which have already been relayed to one or more members of the moderation team I feel I have been tried and convicted of a crime I have not committed.
A request for a more formal notice of the stance from the moderation team has not been forthcoming. Although it goes against how I would wish to conduct myself in this situation I now feel the need to ask for that stance to be made public and to highlight the specifics of my perceived wrong doing so that in future remaining members do not suffer the same treatment.
If, hand on heart, I felt I had conducted myself in a manner that deserved my post being deleted then I absolutely would not have spent the last few hours arguing my case in robust terms and now composing this post.
My mind is made up and my A2 is going to be sold whether it is on this forum or elsewhere. As my thread clearly stated this is solely because I wish to move onto a different project car - no other reason. As such I would have been ending my association with the club in the near future anyway but I am now going to leave it with a very bitter taste in my mouth.
I never thought I would have an axe to grind with those who give up their time to oversee the club for the benefit of everyone else but this episode really has pushed all my wrong buttons.
Thank you to everybody I have had the pleasure of positive dealings with and unless the “team” give me the courtesy of a reply in the next few days I will be deleting my account.
This isn’t an attempt to gain sympathy or calls for me to change my mind - it is somebody taking a stand against something which they totally and utterly disagree with.
I have witnessed some extremely unsavoury behaviour on this forum over the past twelve months and on one occasion made a strong statement about it in defence of those wronged. My next big statement will be the deletion of my account.
Such a shame as there are many on this forum whose help has been genuinely and deeply appreciated but I’m not one to suffer fools gladly so in the next day or two I expect to bid you all farewell unless the “team” alter their stance.
Thank you for taking the time to read my post regardless of what conclusions you draw from it.
Jeff