Icy and snow covered roads

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completely off topic: didn't someone recently say that 20% of the money spent in the UK each year is spent at tesco's? i think that's incredibly scary....

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2002, Petrol 1.4, 17", sports suspension, OpenSky, leather / alcantara in iceblue
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Sorry if I've offended you Richard, that wasn't my intention at all. My views are gleaned from my observations whilst driving, the media and my own Grandad who is now 77 and still driving - watching him do a <s>three</s> nine point turn is painful.
I like Volvos (well the ones from the 850 on anyway - the old 240 doesn't do it for me).
I spent many a happy days as a child holidaying in caravans. But I still curse if I'm stuck behind one on a country road;).
Ageism works both ways. I'm fed up of having ****s wearing baseball caps back to front in Saxo's trying to get into my boot at 60MPH.


Don't drink drive! Not only is it socially unaceptable, it also harms A2's.
Was a 1.4SE petrol. http://www.audi-a2.co.uk/uk14.htm http://www.audi-a2.co.uk/safety.htm
New A2 - Ebony Black, Red Leather, CC, Symphony + all the previous options we had.
 
A sort of connected Volvo story. My mum went on holiday to Derbyshire with her "gentleman" friend who is in his 80's. He was pulled up for speeding and when the policeman asked for his driving licence, my mums boyfriend gleefully handed it over, thinking how great he was to be carrying it. The conversation went:

Police:Sir, do you know your driving licence expired many years ago
Mums boyfriend:Oh dear......

So I had to drive from Norwich to somewhere in the midlands to pick them up in their car which was a Volvo V70 2.4 auto. Very nice car to drive, felt solid, good response, people noticed you and gave you slightly more respect than you would command in an A2.

What's the scores so far hollyrescue on the Volvo/Audi?

Steve - 2002 1.4SE petrol, Silver, black/black interior, Then an identical replacement 2003 A2. Now a Toyota Corolla 1.6 T-Spirit
 
Score is about 2 each with a lot of don't knows. Not a lot of help really, in this house it's wife for A2 and me for Volvo V70, so unless I hear any good arguments against, it's the A2.
After more than 40 years of marriage I have discovered that arguing about such unimportant things is a total waste of time. My Mum and Dad were married for about 65 years, and argued every day. What a waste of two lives. In this house it's "yes dear, anything you say", and then I go and do it my way!! But don't tell 'er indoors that.
I really thought I would learn something via this thread. Well I suppose I have really, but it's about Tescos fruit and veg.
Anyway, I'm still sulking.
 
Now this might just be utter trash - but in the back of my mind, I seem to remember someone somewhere telling me that heavier venicles handle worse in snow and ice?

This would naturally go against your instinct - thinking that heavy would push against the road surface harder (after all Lorries(HGV's) seem to manage fine?)

Can anyone clarify this at all, or am I adding yet more ambiguity to the discussion [B)]

the last car was a tt . . . *sigh*
 
it all comes down to physics, dear fellow:
1 tonne, 4 tyres = 250kg / tyre.
1.75 tonnes, 4 tyres = 437kg / tyre.

means: if the tyres are the same size, there's more pressure on the tyres of the heavier car therefore better grip.

next problem: inertia.
1.75 tonnes is harder to stop than 1 tonne. &lt;end&gt;

bottom line: nothing really speaks against the a2 as far as i can see (i will be playing with it in the snow soon, haven't done it yet), but if you're not comfortable driving the car, then don't do it.
&lt;daydream&gt;
the TT would have been lovely in deep snow with winter tyres + quattro; i used to have an a4 tdi quattro and that was &lt;insert expletive of choice here&gt; amazing in the snow. I just parallel parked without thinking, and the micra driver in front of me needed help from four of us to get near the kerb.....ah, those were the days.
&lt;/daydream&gt;
anyway, sorry, but i'm going to remain "undecided" here...:)
and i'm off to bed. night night.

Bret

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Could it also be differing types of snow/ice? More weight may compress whatever is under the tyre and make it more slippery?

I remember, many years ago, driving home in the ice when I crossed over a road and as the camber lifted the car, the decrease in weight lost the grip and I was weaving all over the place. Scary bit was when I saw a lamp post coming towards me and then thankfully the car griped and weaved out of the way. And all because I had argued with my now ex-girlfriend and was driving too fast.

I know where your coming from hollyrescue....

Steve - 2002 1.4SE petrol, Silver, black/black interior, Then an identical replacement 2003 A2. Now a Toyota Corolla 1.6 T-Spirit
 
so (bretti_kivi) it would seem that there are pro's and cons for both - I suppose its down to which car you reckon has superior electronic gizmos?

btw - the TT was a dream in the snow - especially when going skiing, everybody (incl. 4x4 jeeps) used to follow us, we seemed to be the only car that could (or would) attempt to overtake lorries in blizzard conditions [:I]

Personally, depending on what you will be doing on your trip I would take the Volvo, as it may be that the car will get very dirty inside [9]

the last car was a tt . . . *sigh*
 
rt,

Have you already got rid of the TT? If not, then you gotta keep it - I am starting to think you cant live without it. :)

Kaine
 
quote:Originally posted by Kaine

rt,

Have you already got rid of the TT? If not, then you gotta keep it - I am starting to think you cant live without it. :)

Kaine
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I have . . . . and I can't [29] alas (worst decision I ever made/was forced to make) so Im hoping an A2 will help as part of my 'closure' - lol!

the last car was a tt . . . *sigh*
 
I'd take the A2......The V70 2.5T is a fine car,its only slight fault(because of its power) is that it can lose grip at the front and torque steer,if your a bit careless with the throttle on pull-away.......On snow and ice this could become more pronounced.
 
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so (bretti_kivi) it would seem that there are pro's and cons for both - I suppose its down to which car you reckon has superior electronic gizmos?

btw - the TT was a dream in the snow - especially when going skiing, everybody (incl. 4x4 jeeps) used to follow us, we seemed to be the only car that could (or would) attempt to overtake lorries in blizzard conditions [:I]
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i'd say it's down to what you feel more comfortable with, without relying on electronics.... and as far as crazy quattro drivers are concerned, auto bild did a snow test last year; a4, touareg, kangoo, 911, 330, corolla. "kangoo beats porsche" was the headline: it's all down to driver skill and knowledge at the end of the day....

Bret

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