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Rusty911
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I do like a bit of pepper!
damadgeruk
A2OC Donor
Any preference on spacer supplier?
A2Steve
A2OC Donor
I had great quality ones from a supplier on ebay when I bought some. I'll try to see if I can find them again for you.
A2Steve
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Here you go David, they were very good quality and made from aluminium rather than steel so were very light.
ps, this is just the link for you to know the seller rather than a recommendation on which ones to buy.
ps, this is just the link for you to know the seller rather than a recommendation on which ones to buy.
2 PAIR 15mm & 20mm VW AUDI 5x100 Hubcentric Wheel Spacers, 57.1 bore 20 Bolts | eBay
Our 15mm spacers are bored to 15mm depth to accommodate the standard hub spigot length. For sale we have 4 of our custom made 5x100 Wheel Spacers sold with 20 x Extended M14 x 1.5 HT wheel bolts. These spacers are designed to fit a standard VAG 57.1mm HUB and wheel bore.
www.ebay.co.uk
Providence
A2OC Donor
I've never looked back since I fitted 15" A1 Ronals (courtesy A2Steve). Comfort, speed and sharper turn in makes for a much improved drive.
I've put Bridgestone Turanzas on all four and the dry grip seems good and wet grip very good.
I've put Bridgestone Turanzas on all four and the dry grip seems good and wet grip very good.
The specification of pepperpots is 6Jx15 ET38. Fitting 20mm spacers will change the offset from ET38 to ET18. I wouldn't use an offset of less than ET28 on the A2. If you are using pepperpots with 195/55R15, 195/60R15, or 205/55R15 tyres, there's no need to fit spacers.
205/55R15 would give good protection to the pepperpots from kerbing damage. There's not much choice in the 205/55R15 size, but Uniroyal RainSport 5 is an option.
205/55R15 tyres on 6Jx15 ET38 rims is a better option than 205/40R17 tyres on 7Jx17 ET38 rims, due to much better comfort and resistance to pothole damage.
Uniroyal RainSport 5 205/55R15 88V
Uniroyal Tyres / Car / Uniroyal RainSport 5 205/55 R15 88V TL Fuel Eff.: C Wet Grip: A NoiseClass: B Noise: 71dB Car Tyres - MPV Tyres - People Carrier Tyres - 15" R15" - 205/55/15, 205/55R15
Buy online cheap Uniroyal Tyres / Car / Uniroyal RainSport 5 205/55 R15 88V TL Fuel Eff.: C Wet Grip: A NoiseClass: B Noise: 71dB
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As the A2 is such a light car, it makes sense with wide 205 tyres to use a tyre such as the Uniroyal RainSport 5 that is designed to reduce aquaplanning.
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Jock
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Hi Carlston, I just fitted pepperpots with no spacers and 195/60/15 tyres but according to the definitive guide these are a no go?The specification of pepperpots is 6Jx15 ET38. Fitting 20mm spacers will change the offset from ET38 to ET18. I wouldn't use an offset of less than ET28 on the A2. If you are using pepperpots with 195/55R15, 195/60R15, or 205/55R15 tyres, there's no need to fit spacers.
205/55R15 would give good protection to the pepperpots from kerbing damage. There's not much choice in the 205/55R15 size, but Uniroyal RainSport 5 is an option.
205/55R15 tyres on 6Jx15 ET38 rims is a better option than 205/40R17 tyres on 7Jx17 ET38 rims, due to much better comfort and resistance to pothole damage.
Uniroyal RainSport 5 205/55R15 88V
Uniroyal Tyres / Car / Uniroyal RainSport 5 205/55 R15 88V TL Fuel Eff.: C Wet Grip: A NoiseClass: B Noise: 71dB Car Tyres - MPV Tyres - People Carrier Tyres - 15" R15" - 205/55/15, 205/55R15
Buy online cheap Uniroyal Tyres / Car / Uniroyal RainSport 5 205/55 R15 88V TL Fuel Eff.: C Wet Grip: A NoiseClass: B Noise: 71dB
As the A2 is such a light car, it makes sense with wide 205 tyres to use a tyre such as the Uniroyal RainSport 5 that is designed to reduce aquaplanning.
bretti_kivi
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There is a legal requirement for negative speed reading. Too large tyres will remove this.185/60 work well (I use these in winter), but they are close to too large already. 195/60 is 4% larger than the 175/60 reference. I expect rubbing at full lock or serious suspension travel.
I disagree on the spacers - I see why you would want to for looks and agree that with the light wheels the negative effects on the bearings should also be small.
I disagree on the spacers - I see why you would want to for looks and agree that with the light wheels the negative effects on the bearings should also be small.
Jock
Member
You've lost me Bretti_kivi, what is a negative speed reading? I don't have any spacers on. Will my bearings be ok? Ps. I was not ignoring the great advice on this invaluable forum, I just had the wheels kicking about. Thanks
Providence is running 195/60R15 tyres on 6.5Jx15 ET34 Audi A1 rims.
195/60 R15 on 1.4 Sport.
Please see below a picture of my car. I obtained these wheels from A2Steve (thanks mate) and have immediately put some new Bridgestone Turanzas on them. The comfort level has improved very much over the RS4 215/40 R17 that they have replaced. In theory I have : Improved ride. Slimmer tyres...
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Providence
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I have had no issues with these wheels and tyres. My speedo reads 51mph when I'm doing 50.
bretti_kivi
Member
Original measured tyre size was 175/60R15, that's the reference Audi used. Largest standard tyre was 205/40R17, smallest 155/65R15, authorized for M&S only and the only size authorized for snow chains.
Spacers add additional weight further out and therefore add strain onto the bearings and add additional unsprung weight. This is not conducive to a long service life.
negative speed reading: speedo reading 49mph and you're actually travelling 50.
Spacers add additional weight further out and therefore add strain onto the bearings and add additional unsprung weight. This is not conducive to a long service life.
What suspension? If you're on standard springs, fair enough. I saw evidence of arguments on 7.5J at ET35 with 215s on, others don't. There is variation. My understanding is that 3% larger is a legal limitation, also because of the odo reading.
In short the answer to your question is no.
The worst case scenario is that on full lock the front left tyre could rub the inner wheel arch liner and if the car is fully laden with weight and when going over a speed bump the tyres could touch the rear wheel arch liners but you would soon hear this and although obviously not ideal, it still wouldn't be dangerous or unsafe at all and I don't believe this would happen with the 195/60 15 tyre size you have stated on pepperpots although in my opinion 195 is the widest tyre you would want to fit on a 6" wide rim.
Make sure the tyre pressures are correct, the tyres are in good condition and you will probably love the increased comfort you get.
Your speedo will also probably still over read slightly as it is designed to do (which I personally really dislike) but probably only by 1mph instead of the usual 3 to 4mph (ie when your speedo reads 70mph you are actually only travelling 66 or 67mph) and at worst (or best depending on your perspective) it will read exactly correct but you can easily check this with Google maps or other navigation app on your phone or set nav which tells you the actual speed you are travelling ?
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Providence
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It's standard 1.4 Sport suspension.
My calculator says that my circumference is 3.09% over maximum. The speedo still overreads.
I would like to hear if anyone knows about the English laws on this. I have always assumed that ESP on a 2003 car was not required and therefore whether it functions or how efficiently it functions is of no interest in law.
I drive as if I had no ESP anyway but I must admit that where I live, it doesn't snow!
ESP detects differences in wheel rotational speed.
If all four tyres on the car are the same size, including undersize and oversize, there won't be a problem with the ESP.
It depends on the aspect ratio.
205/40 needs at least a 7J rim, 205/45 needs at least a 6.5J rim, and 205/50, 205/55, 205/60, 205/65 need at least a 5.5J rim, and 205/70 needs at least a 5J rim.
VW sometimes fitted 205/55R16 tyres to 6J rims, such as the DAVOS which was fitted to cars such as the Golf and Touran from 2004-2016.
| 3 | 1K0601025Q | aluminium rim - DAVOS - for winter tires | 6 JX16H2 ET50 5/112 |
| 1K0601025Q 8Z8 | bright chrome | Period: 0104 - 0705 |
Here's a photo from an ebay seller with 1K0601025Q rims (6J rim width) fitted with 205/55R16 tyres.
Toyo lists approved rim widths for the tyres that it sells.
TOYO TIRES - United Kingdom
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