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Hi,
I have just been attempting to fit the swing grey rear cup holder which I purchased second hand. I didn't get all the parts but it did come with the rare metal brackets for the rear fixing so I was happy at the time.
To complete the kit of parts I added 2 bolts, 2 washers and the front bracket:
Bolts: N 102 883 03
Washers: N 908 040 02
Front bracket: 8Z0 864 079 B
I also needed 2 self tapping screws to fix the front bracket in place. I used my own but Audi have N 903 642 01.
Fitting the rear bracket with the new bolts and washers went well. The washers I believe are essential and not mentioned in the guide on this post.
http://www.a2oc.net/forum/showthread.php?3397-Fiting-Audi-rear-drinks-holder
I placed the washers behind the brackets and on top of the carpet. When tightened, the brackets are pressed against the flat surface of the washers. Without the washers, the brackets would sink unevenly into the soft carpet when tightened and get bent. My brackets had previously been fitted without the brackets and required a lot of straightening to get back to more or less the original shape.
Fitted bracket with washer showing behind. The washers were quite big and have sunk into the carpet:
When the front bracket is pushed under the back of the center console its holes line up with those in the centre console. The small self tapping screws hold it in place so it can't slide back out.
Now to my problem. As hard as I tried, I could not get the front of the cup holder to clip into the bracket. The cup holder has a tab which springs out and no matter how hard I tried, it would not engage.
Taking the bracket back out of the car reveals why:
The cup holder on its own, upside-down.
The tab is shown extended, as would be in the locked position. The button on the top retracts the tab to allow the cup holder to be removed from the car. The second tab seen below higher locking tab in the picture is pressed by the retaining bracket. This causes the locking tab to spring out when the cup holder is pushed onto the bracket.
My problem is that the locking tab never reaches the bracket, its simply in the wrong place! The locking tab has to go under the bracket. My one is too high and doesn't even reach the top of the bracket!
The bracket fitted to the cup holder as it would be in the correct place when in the car. There is daylight between the locking tab and the top of the bracket where it should actually be underneath.
I clearly have the wrong bracket as its not the right shape for the cup holder but Audi's parts database in the dealer only shows one bracket.
Looking on the web however, this parts diagram actually shows 3 different part numbers for the front bracket.
8Z0864079, 8Z0864079A and 8Z0864079B.
Crucially, it also lists 2 different cup holder part numbers. 8Z0863476 and 8Z0863476A.
http://www.oemepc.com/audi/part_sin...863060/part_id/0/is_main_page/0/lang/d#sec_14
The cup holder 8Z0863476 was discontinued in 2002 and so where the front bracket parts 8Z0864079 and 8Z0864079A.
My cup holder was made in April 2000 and is 8Z0863476 without the A.
My suspicion is that when the cup holder changed from 8Z0863476 to 8Z0863476A, it was redesigned with the locking tab in a different place. The later cup holder goes with the newest 8Z0864079B front bracket but the older one requires the original, now discontinued front bracket which is a different shape.
I spotted this thread on the German A2 club site which shows pictures of a cup holder with a different locking tab, one that's much lower than the bottom of the box, and would correctly engage with the bracket I have:
https://a2-freun.de/forum/forums/topic/32596-defekte-multibox-mittelkonsolenbox/
My questions are, has anyone else come across this problem? Does anyone have a older style front bracket which they don't need? Is this the mysterious extra bracket shown in the "how to" guide which wasn't used?
regards
Andrew
I have just been attempting to fit the swing grey rear cup holder which I purchased second hand. I didn't get all the parts but it did come with the rare metal brackets for the rear fixing so I was happy at the time.
To complete the kit of parts I added 2 bolts, 2 washers and the front bracket:
Bolts: N 102 883 03
Washers: N 908 040 02
Front bracket: 8Z0 864 079 B
I also needed 2 self tapping screws to fix the front bracket in place. I used my own but Audi have N 903 642 01.
Fitting the rear bracket with the new bolts and washers went well. The washers I believe are essential and not mentioned in the guide on this post.
http://www.a2oc.net/forum/showthread.php?3397-Fiting-Audi-rear-drinks-holder
I placed the washers behind the brackets and on top of the carpet. When tightened, the brackets are pressed against the flat surface of the washers. Without the washers, the brackets would sink unevenly into the soft carpet when tightened and get bent. My brackets had previously been fitted without the brackets and required a lot of straightening to get back to more or less the original shape.
Fitted bracket with washer showing behind. The washers were quite big and have sunk into the carpet:
When the front bracket is pushed under the back of the center console its holes line up with those in the centre console. The small self tapping screws hold it in place so it can't slide back out.
Now to my problem. As hard as I tried, I could not get the front of the cup holder to clip into the bracket. The cup holder has a tab which springs out and no matter how hard I tried, it would not engage.
Taking the bracket back out of the car reveals why:
The cup holder on its own, upside-down.
The tab is shown extended, as would be in the locked position. The button on the top retracts the tab to allow the cup holder to be removed from the car. The second tab seen below higher locking tab in the picture is pressed by the retaining bracket. This causes the locking tab to spring out when the cup holder is pushed onto the bracket.
My problem is that the locking tab never reaches the bracket, its simply in the wrong place! The locking tab has to go under the bracket. My one is too high and doesn't even reach the top of the bracket!
The bracket fitted to the cup holder as it would be in the correct place when in the car. There is daylight between the locking tab and the top of the bracket where it should actually be underneath.
I clearly have the wrong bracket as its not the right shape for the cup holder but Audi's parts database in the dealer only shows one bracket.
Looking on the web however, this parts diagram actually shows 3 different part numbers for the front bracket.
8Z0864079, 8Z0864079A and 8Z0864079B.
Crucially, it also lists 2 different cup holder part numbers. 8Z0863476 and 8Z0863476A.
http://www.oemepc.com/audi/part_sin...863060/part_id/0/is_main_page/0/lang/d#sec_14
The cup holder 8Z0863476 was discontinued in 2002 and so where the front bracket parts 8Z0864079 and 8Z0864079A.
My cup holder was made in April 2000 and is 8Z0863476 without the A.
My suspicion is that when the cup holder changed from 8Z0863476 to 8Z0863476A, it was redesigned with the locking tab in a different place. The later cup holder goes with the newest 8Z0864079B front bracket but the older one requires the original, now discontinued front bracket which is a different shape.
I spotted this thread on the German A2 club site which shows pictures of a cup holder with a different locking tab, one that's much lower than the bottom of the box, and would correctly engage with the bracket I have:
https://a2-freun.de/forum/forums/topic/32596-defekte-multibox-mittelkonsolenbox/
My questions are, has anyone else come across this problem? Does anyone have a older style front bracket which they don't need? Is this the mysterious extra bracket shown in the "how to" guide which wasn't used?
regards
Andrew
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