RNS-E SatNav Unit Technical Details/Troubleshooting thread

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sciroccorrado

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As more and more people now are fitting RNS-E to their A2s I thought it time to pull together a load of information to ease the installation and smooth running of these fine bits of kit.

1. Physical Fitting
2. Electronic fitting
3. Coding
4. SatNav discs
5. Telephone Options
6. Memory card formats
7. Music formats
8. Part numbers
 
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3. Coding

Codes for RNS-E

STG 56 (Navigation System) -> Coding -> Function 07
0?xxxxx: Model
1 - Lamborghini
2 - Audi A3 (8P)
3 - Audi A4 (> 2004)
4 - Audi A4 Cabriolet (> 2004)
5 - Audi A6 (< 2004)
6 - Audi TT (> 2007) (sw US 0150+, EU 0500+)
7 - Audi R8 (sw US 0150+, EU 0500+)

0x?xxxx: Diagnostics for front speakers
0 - activ
1 - inactiv

0xx?xxx: Sound characteristics
0 - linear
1 - Audi A4 (> 2004)
2 - Audi A6 (< 2004)
3 - Audi A4 Cabriolet (> 2004)
4 - Audi TT (> 2004)
5 - Audi A3 (8P)
9 - Bose Soundsystem

0xxx?xx: Telephone/telematics
1 - no telephone (supply voltage for microphone actively)
2 - Mobile phone preparation (Temic - Speisesp. Microphone inactively)
3 - Mobile phone preparation (Cullmann - Speisesp. Microphone inactively)
4 - Mobile phone preparation (Nokia - Speisesp. Microphone inactively)
5 - Telematics Europe (supply voltage microphone inactively)
6 - Telematics US (supply voltage microphone inactively)
7 - Base plate diagnostic capable with comfort control

0xxxx?x: Options I
1 - default
2 - Digital-Radio
3 - Satelite-Radio
4 - Satelite- and Digital-Radio
5 - AUX in (Euro sw 0650+)
6 - AUX in and DAB (Euro sw 0650+)

0xxxxx?: Options II
1 - default
2 - TV-Tuner
3 - CD-Changer
4 - TV-Tuner and CD-Changer
5 - Multifunction Steering Wheel
6 - TV-Tuner and Multifunction Steering Wheel
7 - CD-Changer and Multifunction Steering Wheel
8 - TV-Tuner, CD-Changer und Multifunction Steering Wheel

STG 56 -> Adaptation -> Function 10
-> Channel 001 (Tires)
See http://de.openobd.org/audi/rns.htm#reifen

-> Channel 002 (GALA)
0 - Self calibration
8 - Audi A6 (4B)
43 - Audi A3 (8P)
45 - Audi A4 (> 2004)

-> Channel 003 (Language)
0 - German
1 - English (UK only)
2 - French
3 - Italian
5 - Spanish
7 - English (USA only)

-> Channel 004 (rear view camera (Lamborghini only)
0 - disabled
1 - enabled

-> Channel 005 (TV in motion)
0 - off
1 - up to 5 km/h
250 - unlimited (unlocked units only, otherwise value will not store)

-> Channel 007 (Settings)
+01 - Distance in miles
+02 - Speed in mph
+04 - time in am/pm
+08 - Date in MM:TT:JJJJ
+16 - Repeat voice commands

-> Channel 008 (GALA)
000 - GALA off
001 - Charakteristics 1
002 - Charakteristics 2
003 - Charakteristics 3
004 - Charakteristics 4
005 - Charakteristics 5
255 - GALA via microphone (Bose AudioPilot)

-> Channel 010 (Region)
0 - Northern hemisphere (Europe, North America)
1 - Southern hemisphere (Australia)
2 - Southern hemisphere (South Africa)
Reverts back to 0 after loading software update

-> Channel 011 (undocumented)

-> Channel 016 (undocumented)

-> Channel 017 (undocumented)

-> Channel 018 (Startup Logo, sw US 0150+/EU 0500+)
0 - Default
1 - S3 (EU 0500+ only and only when coded for A3)
2 - S4 (EU 0500+ only and only when coded for A4)
3 - RS4 (EU 0500+ only and only when coded for A4)
4 - TT
5 - R8

-> Channel 064 (undocumented)

-> Channel 065 (Read Test)

-> Channel 066 (Self Test)

-> Channel 067 (Eject CD/DVD)
000 - default
001 - eject CD/DVD
255 - eject button locked, no eject possible

-> Channel 068 (TV test screen)

-> Channel 069 (Display Mechanism)
000 - closed
001 - open
200 - partly opened (blocked)
255 - unknown position

-> Channel 070 (Display Brightness)
0 - off
1 - 20%
2 - 40%
3 - 60%
4 - 80%
5 - 100%

-> Channel 097 (Downgrade Software)
0 - Normal operation, unit performs updates only
1 - Force downgrade to older version, requires older DVD/CD

-> Channel 099 (Transport Mode)
0 - inactive
1 - active

-> Channel 111 (System Reset)
Test 1 to initiate cold reboot

-> Channel 112 (Audio Source)
0 - FM
1 - AM
2 - CD
3 - TV
4 - SAT

-> Channel 114 (FM Frequency)

-> Channel 115 (AM Frequency)

-> Channel 116 (XM channel)

-> Channel 117 (Signal position)
0 - Fader middle, balance middle
1 - Fader front, balance left
2 - Fader front, balance right
3 - Fader rear, balance left
4 - Fader rear, balance right

-> Channel 118 (FM Seek)
1 - up
2 - down

-> Channel 119 (AM Seek)
1 - up
2 - down

-> Channel 120 (undocumented)

-> Channel 122 (undocumented)

-> Channel 123 (undocumented)

-> Channel 125 (undocumented)

-> Channel 129 (undocumented)

-> Channel 130 (undocumented)

-> Channel 135 (undocumented)

-> Channel 136 (Voice commands)
00005 - LHD (USA + Europe SW 0500+)
00013 - RHD (USA + Europe SW 0500+)
02632 - RHD (Europe SW < 0500)
03226 - LHD (Europe SW <0500)

-> Channel 137 (undocumented)

-> Channel 138 (undocumented)

-> Channel 139 (undocumented)

Many thanks to @craigyb for complete details on this.

Channels not listed here are not used.
 
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4. Sat Nav Discs

NAVIGATION DVD for RNS-E only

2004
8P0 060 884 (2004-0050) Europe
8P0 060 884 B (2004-0080) Europe
Navteq W531247003 (2004-0020) North America version 1A

2005
8P0 060 884 A (2005-0100) Australia Version 2005
8P0 060 884 C (2005-0100) Europe
8P0 060 884 E (2005_1-0330) Europe (for RNS-E BASIC)
Navteq AND-A0501 (2005-0110) North America version 2A
8P0 060 884 G (2005-0330) Australia Version 2005_1
8P0 060 884 H (2005_2-0360) Europe (for RNS-E HIGH)

2006
8P0 060 884 J (2006-0450) Europe
8P0 060 884 K (2006_1-0460) Europe
8P0 060 884 L (2006) South Africa

2007
8P0 060 884 M (2007-0550) Europe (first 2 DVD set for Europe, first with TMC in UK)
8P0 060 884 M (2007-0550) Europe (factory installed with new cars)
8P0 060 884 N (2007-0550) Australia Version 2007
8P0 060 884 P (2007-0150) North America (3A)
8P0 060 884 Q (2007_1-0200) North America (4A)
8P0 060 884 R (2007_1-0600) Europe

2008
8P0 060 884 S (2008 ) Australia
8P0 060 884 T (2008 ) South Africa
8P0 060 884 AA (2008-0650) Europe
8P0 060 884 AB (2008 ) AGCC (Arab Gulf Countries Council - Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates (UAE))
8P0 060 884 AC (2008-0260) North America (5A) - DISABLES TV FUNCTIONALITY

2009
8P0 060 884 AD (2009-0650) Europe
8P0 060 884 AH (2009-0260) North America (6A) - TV FUNCTIONALITY STILL DISABLED
8P0 060 884 AJ (2009_1-0650) Europe - Includes 0070 SW for 2010+ RNS-E

2010
8P0 060 884 AM (2010-0260) North America?
8P0 060 884 AN (2010-0650) Europe - Includes 0150 SW for 2010+ RNS-E
8P0 060 884 AP (2010-0650) Australia - Includes 0150 SW for 2010+ RNS-E
8P0 060 884 AQ (2010-0650) South Africa - Includes 0150 SW for 2010+ RNS-E
8P0 060 884 AR (2010-0650) AGCC - Includes 0150 SW for 2010+ RNS-E

2011
8P0 060 884 AS (2011-0260) North America (xA) - TV FUNCTIONALITY STILL DISABLED - Includes 0200 SW for 2010+ RNS-E
8P0 060 884 AT (2011-0650) Europe - Includes 0200 SW for 2010+ RNS-E
8P0 060 884 BA (2011-0650) Australia - Includes 0200 SW for 2010+ RNS-E
8P0 060 884 BB (2011-0650) South Africa - Includes 0200 SW for 2010+ RNS-E
8P0 060 884 BC (2011) AGCC

2012
8P0 060 884 BD (2012-0260) North America (xA) - TV FUNCTIONALITY STILL DISABLED - Includes 0200 SW for 2010+ RNS-E
8P0 060 884 BE (2012-0650) Europe - Includes 0200 SW for 2010+ RNS-E
8P0 060 884 BF (2012-0650) Australia - Includes 0200 SW for 2010+ RNS-E
8P0 060 884 BG (2012) South Africa
8P0 060 884 BH (2012) AGCC

2013
8P0 060 884 BJ (2013-0260) North America (xA) - TV FUNCTIONALITY STILL DISABLED - Includes 0210 SW for 2010+ RNS-E
8P0 060 884 BK (2013-0650) Europe - Includes 0220 SW for 2010+ RNS-E
8P0 060 884 BL (2013-0650) Australia - Includes 0220 SW for 2010+ RNS-E
8P0 060 884 BM (2013) South Africa
8P0 060 884 BN (2013) AGCC

2014
8P0 060 884 BP (2014-0260) North America (xA) - TV FUNCTIONALITY STILL DISABLED - Includes 0230 SW for 2010+ RNS-E
8P0 060 884 BQ (2014-0650) Europe - Includes 0220 SW for 2010+ RNS-E - Added Albania, Bulgaria, Macedonia, Serbia, Bosnia/Herzegovina, Lichtenstein, Romania and Montenegro
8P0 060 884 BR (2014) Australia?
8P0 060 884 BS (2014) South Africa?
8P0 060 884 BT (2014) AGCC?

2015
8P0 060 884 CA (2015) NA
8P0 060 884 CB (2015-0650) Europe - Still has 0220 SW for 2010+ RNS-E - Now a 3DVD set (DVD1: Central Europe[Germany, Austria, Switzerland, France, Itay, San Marino, Vatican City, Benelux]; DVD2: Western Europe [France, Spain, Portugal, UK, Ireland, Benelux, Switzerland]; DVD3: Eastern Europe[Germany, Austria, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Slovenia, Croatia, Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Greece, Hungary])
8P0 060 884 CC (2015) Australia?
8P0 060 884 CD (2015) South Africa?
8P0 060 884 CE (2015) AGCC?

2016
8P0 060 884 CF (2016) NA - Now a 2DVD set.
8P0 060 884 CG (2016-0650/0220) Europe - Still 3DVD set.
8P0 060 884 CH (2016) Australia?
8P0 060 884 CJ (2016) South Africa?
8P0 060 884 CK (2016) AGCC?

There are 2017 & 18 disks, but I don't have the part numbers to hand

*Many thanks to @craigyb for details in this section.
 
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6. Memory Cards

All cards need to be formatted as FAT32. There are different specifications depending on whether you have a Mk1 (192 part number) or Mk2 (193 part number)

RNS-E Mk1 Units (xxx 035 192 x)
  • SD Card, supports up to 4GB - BUT it needs to be an SD card, NOT an SDHC as these do not work. Tricky to get hold of, as often advertised as SD cards, but when plugged in turn out to be SDHC.
RNS-E Mk2 Units (xxx 035 193 x)
  • SD Card, supports up to 32GB - Cards can be SD or SDHC.
 
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7. Music Formats
  • Music needs to be in MP3 format only, although WMA is nominally supported the units cannot support Digital Rights Management built into most WMA files output from Apple's iTunes service. So if you have iTunes or Macs/iPhones then you will need to do some conversion on most files. (I will attempt to find a solution, and link here).
  • The folder format is pretty open, moving through the folders in alphabetical/numberical order, and files in the same way.
Limitation: The total filename length cannot exceed 72 characters (including the folder names and the .mp3) Anything over this length will just be ignored
Example:
  • Artist Name\Album Name\1. Track Name.mp3 will be okay
  • Full Artist Name\Full Album Name\1. Full Artist Name Again - Full Album Name Again - Track Name - and the name of the Remix is a really bad idea as an example.mp3 will be probably not
 
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8. Part numbers (Mk 1 or Mk 2?)

As discussed earlier, there are two main types of RNS-E Units, identifiable by the last few digits of the part number. To explain, a short lesson in Audi part number is probably a good idea. They are generally formatted as :

  • XXX - (a three letter/number code which relates to the car model/derivative) - Example 8Z0 is for an Audi A2 (all models), 8D0 is for Audi A4 B5 models built between 1994 and 2001.
  • XXX - A three number code relating to what the part actually is
  • XXX - Another three number code, the second part of what it is, usually relates to major revision version numbers
  • X - A 1 or 2 letter code relating to revision number.
So, a typical A4 RNS-E Mk 1 unit would have a part number of 4B0 035 192 - 4B0 for A6, 035 for RNS-E, 192 for Version 1

When purchasing a unit the ideal units are different depending on whether you are getting a Mk1 unit (192) or Mk2 (193). The Mk2 is a better unit, featuring better cooling, a revised, higher resolution screen, faster processor and support for larger SD cards. Both units use the same

Ideal units are:
  • Mk 1: 4B0 035 192 S from an Audi A6
  • Mk 2: The best one is XXX 035 193 B, especially if you have a full DIS cluster as these interface properly with that, but were the last to have the extra speed pulse input to keep the unit "moving" if satellite sight is lost (ie in a tunnel or undercover etc.), other revisions will work, but you will lose this facility. These units require a little more wiring, and coding through VCDS but give the best results. They are however the hardest to find, and generally cost the most.
 
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Perhaps a section in iPhone / Android connectivity for music? I know it’s not straight forward but it’s something people would be interested in.

Maybe also TV tuner setup?
 
Could you fix the part numbers. 8D0 part never existed for RNS-E MK1. I have sent you can complete list of parts, codings and DVD part numbers
 
craigyb said:
Could you fix the part numbers. 8D0 part never existed for RNS-E MK1. I have sent you can complete list of parts, codings and DVD part numbers
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8PO is A3, not A4 as stated
8E0 is A4
4B0 is A6 and is the best MK1 unit to buy as it should work immediately in an A2 without a recode

No such part number 8E0 035 193S it does not exist
 
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craigyb


I have access to by a RNS-E with part number 8P0 035 193 E
I have the original 2DIN RNS-D unit with Bose&TV.

What functionality will the "193 E" unit be lacking that the "193 B" unit does have?
 
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mars said:
Hey, is there anyone who's tried web-based alternatives to navigation discs, like this site offering navigation DVD ISOs that you can burn into a DVD to then feed the unit, or this custom RNS-E firmware that apparently allows you to store maps in the SD card slots (which leaves me wondering what they are there for if not maps?)
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Evening Mars,

Have a look through my Project OEM thread (apologies now for it being quite wordy) to understand more about the functionality of the custom firmware you linked above. I along with many others have been running it our units for some time now. It is just incredible what can be achieved with some dedication and I’m very happy with the recently available FW300 Beta v1 that I have in all 4 RNS-E PU units here.

Currently there is no option to use a different language of navigation software inside these great units.

If you conduct a broader search about what’s possible with the RNS-E, you will come across CarPC builds that have touchscreen and all the latest features that you’d expect from a head unit of today, it’s not something I’ve decided to do yet but have a spare RNS-E PU and Mac Mini ready to go should I ever feel the need to try it. A lot of work for little gain for me personally but it’ll certainly be of interest to some I’m sure.

Kind regards,

Tom
 
2work said:
If you conduct a broader search about what’s possible with the RNS-E, you will come across CarPC builds that have touchscreen and all the latest features that you’d expect from a head unit of today, it’s not something I’ve decided to do yet but have a spare RNS-E PU and Mac Mini ready to go should I ever feel the need to try it.
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So essentially just gutting an RNS-E unit and building your own in its shell?
2work said:
A lot of work for little gain for me personally but it’ll certainly be of interest to some I’m sure.
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With my idea to turn the "fake" rectangle atop the dash into a flip-up navi, it sure would be to me! :)
 
2work said:
Evening Mars,

Have a look through my Project OEM thread (apologies now for it being quite wordy) to understand more about the functionality of the custom firmware you linked above. I along with many others have been running it our units for some time now. It is just incredible what can be achieved with some dedication and I’m very happy with the recently available FW300 Beta v1 that I have in all 4 RNS-E PU units here.
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Glanced through, and seems well worth a read! Will look into it in the coming days.
 
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