Soundproofing project

if you cover the *entire* panel, then you have a blocker as well as an anti-resonance membrane.

Doesn't make it easy to do, though. Personally, I'd also look to do the plastic bits at the base of the A-Pillar.

- Bret
 
if you cover the *entire* panel, then you have a blocker as well as an anti-resonance membrane.

Doesn't make it easy to do, though. Personally, I'd also look to do the plastic bits at the base of the A-Pillar.

- Bret

for the plastic panels i wouldnt weight them up id rather go for something like this ,

http://www.screwfix.com/p/no-nonsense-fire-rated-expanding-foam-hand-held-750ml/83897

as noticed Audi have sprayed it in a few knooks and crannys as theres no weight to it and it will cling to any material and easy to reshape, channel out for wiring ect after its dried, just mask up with low tack masking tape arround the edges and fixing lugs to save on clean up of overspills and go easy as it does expand quite alot.

Gary
 
My first priority is to sound-insulate the bulkhead whilst the dash is out. It'll be a one-off, so I'll try to do the best job I can (as usual). I'd need to ensure that the dash will locate perfectly after the layer of sound-deadening material has been applied. The rest of the car will follow, in due course ....

David
 
Mass is what blocks sound, you really need to completely cover everything with something of around 5 kg/m.

Those self-adhesive Dynamat-style sheets are really designed for stopping panel resonance.

Is this what your talking about? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Silent-Coat...968703?hash=item27e142b07f:g:~JQAAMXQeKNTNxW4

I see that it's 6kg/m2 .... 4mm thick .... It would be necessary to re-locate all the carpet retainers and trim away some internal plastic panels, too. I think that it's do-able. I would have to use a thinner section behind the dash, though. I won't know until the dash is removed.

David

David
 
I despise expanding foam. I personally find it awful, awful stuff to work with. Urgh. I'm talking, though, about the inner plastic trim cover, where the wires are underneath running down the sills. There's a lot of noise comes in through there. You can relatively easily insulate quite a lot of that. Underlay is something certain people swear by, I can't say I've used it. Thicker felt sheets where there's space for them can be extremely effective (especially if you've got some MLV at the base).

Regarding mass vs blocker: you don't *need* the mass unless you're talking bass (and most road noise is traditionally seen as 125Hz, which is close to bass). At the end of the day, butyl will block and add mass at the same time. If you've got space for MLV, great. I don't. You need to decouple MLV somehow, you need high density - which increases thickness again, 4mm for 7,5kg/m2 - and then you really ought to decouple from the interior trim. It adds cost, effort and weight, and yes, I dare say the improvement might be good but only if you do the whole thing.

STP's "Bomb" (which is a very similar product to the multilayer linked) does a decent job of combining mass with butyl. Avoid bitumen unless you like a sticky mess in the car on a hot day.

- Bret
 
When you guys are talking about tar mats. Are those bitumen mats? I have a couple of sheets of these at home. Thinking I might start to sound proof aswell.
 
I've got a fair few spare sound deadening mats left over from my attempts to dampen down a bit of the A2's noise too. I put the sheets on the inside of all 4 doors and across the floor of both driver and passenger areas - including down into the sunken wells. Did it make a difference? Don't know, haven't done a before and after dB check, but it felt good doing it!
 
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