Swapping the A2 for a BMW i3 - thoughts please

I have had x2 Audi A2s. The first I should have never sold. I sold it to buy a Nissan Leaf. That car with its short electric range was the best car ever, at the time. Cost only £400 in fuel for the entirety of its 70,000 miles and sold it for much less depreciation than most of my cars. Oddly if I had kept it I would have made a profit.

The second I bought for £800 from Auction and spent a while getting it to spec but had an itch for an i3 Rex. I bought an 94ah Rex pre 2017. No luxury car tax and no road tax but at the height of its retail price as it had warranty. *ultimate stupidity!
Love the car entirely. Once you get used to the flighty, bouncy - trying to kill you - handling in high winds, and skittish nature around the pot hole filled off camber subsided Scottish roads, it’s an awesome, surprising swift drive. Mine has a factory fitted basic lane assist (called Traffic Jam Assist - TJA) it’s almost like a self drive functionality which is currently limited to motorways in lane keeping mode and also keeps its distance from the car in front. The majority of the time the TJA does not work in Scotland but that will be modded at some point when the warranty runs out.
The distance control works surprisingly well and warns you with steering vibration and bleeps if it detects slow or stopped vehicles in front.
Also my car has the distance control when in cruise control and I rarely need to brake as the car does it for me, it keeps me at the flow of traffic at a safe distance which can be adjusted to stop fishermen in their hot hatches trying to slam their way into the safe gap the car creates to the car in front.

Economics, fuel efficiency wise, are only slightly better than the A2, but I knew that already having test driven one when I had my first A2. My main complaint, other than it’s plummeting value, is the Bluetooth function is crap and has a massive lag when trying to play stuff from a phone. This can be upgraded with a new carplay module from the newer i3 for about £400 and an hours worth of labour.
I sold the A2 as I kept getting a sore back and shoulder when driving it. The mpg for the A2 was awesome (in my first car with no sun roof) my the second A2 was more like my now i3 for mpg (if just using the i3 rex) around 66mpg.

Electric cars are cheaper now, if anything, more realistic in price, this is thanks to Tesla, the still tragically poor electric infrastructure, with idiots trashing charge points or them not initialising with the internet. Public charge points now being 70p+ per kw, puts charging more expensive than diesel or petrol per kWh in the i3 as its usage efficiency for my Rex is 4.4 kwh. It’s equivalent to filling up at only the most expensive motorway petrol stations on the A34 near Weston on the Green in Oxfordshire. Last time I went there it was £1.72p per litre for petrol.

Free charging is super rare and the only way to get cheap/free charging is to charge at home 18p per kw, or Asda (free) where Teslas and Polsars are sat there all day charging for free as they can’t afford to charge the cars anywhere else. Using my local Inverness Asda as an example.

Would I recommend someone to buy the i3?

Second hand spares are cheap as many are being written off by insurance companies for minor damage as it is more expensive to repair than the car is worth, as no insurance repair garage wants to touch them. Sounds like the A2. But I was told that they are more repairable than a Tesla. But those are independent insurance repair garages comments, not mine.

But would I recommend buying one?

Now is better than ever to get one, and It is considered one of the top 10 reliable cars with, relatively speaking, maintenance free problems.
Not had any issues with mine except a frozen door handle in winter, and a sticky non opening petrol cap on occasion, which has now been fixed under warranty. But I had the same thing with my last A2 petrol cap and once I cleaned the contacts it was all better.

Electric range is approx 146 miles in summer and 110-120 in Winter, with Winter tyres and shed loads of snow. I live in the Highlands.
But I do drive with Mpg values in mind, as you can probably see when I posted about my mpg achievements in the A2.

I can go to England in it without much effort, not in one stop like the A2, but topping up the Rex petrol tank every 110 miles. Which I would stop roughly for a pit stop anyway.
You start the drive with 100% electric and when that gets to 75% you can hold the state of charge with the little petrol engine (Rex).

If you like long uninterrupted journeys, I would probably stick with the A2, but the i3 Rex is great, even on long journeys. I drive it from Inverness to Wick to Skye and Fort William to Oban and NEVER worry about range. I would think very little of heading up to Wick and return in one sitting. If I knew I need to head off to Elgin from wick I would top up on electric.

I have my i3 but still consider to buying another A2, but I would get the 1.2 if I was getting another, as I cannot face another manual, yes I am old and lazy.
Wife thinks I’m mad for wanting another A2. Well I bought an i3 Rex at a premium, so I must be.
Wife hates both the A2 and i3 due to both seats being uncomfortable. To me the i3 is super comfortable to the last A2 I had.
Bought the wife a DSG Touran to keep her happy. At least that car is holding its value.
 
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I'm also looking for a 33Kwh Rex as that appears to give significant flexibility that the electric only doesn't. Generally I don't go very far these days and the electric only range would cover going to work (where I can charge for free) and back, if I ever get around to going back to the office. I'm far too mean to stump up a big chunk of money for one of the latest models and watch it depreciate so realistically it's going to be a 2017/18. However, I'm sure that I'll keep the diesel A2, just because I can, I mean it's only done 205K and I've owned it since 2009, it's paid for it'self many times over and I'd miss it if it were gone.
 
Interesting now that Khan is now being slated for paying UCL to “modify” the results on ULEZ air quality to make it look as if the ULEZ has been a success. Another interesting one is that three cargo ship price more pollution than all the road transport in the UK. That and the increase in Chinese pollution last year was more than the entire UK pollution. It looks like we’re not actually tackling the problem just tickling it round the edges
 
Interesting now that Khan is now being slated for paying UCL to “modify” the results on ULEZ air quality to make it look as if the ULEZ has been a success. Another interesting one is that three cargo ship price more pollution than all the road transport in the UK. That and the increase in Chinese pollution last year was more than the entire UK pollution. It looks like we’re not actually tackling the problem just tickling it round the edges
The Government is basically a marketing agency, doing their best to look green, cuddly and caring.
The machinery of Government, the Agencies, (DVLA, Passport, etc), the Departments, (DHSS, Immigration, etc), and the Civil Service, are unable to carry out the basic management and administrative functions they are each responsible for.
This will not change, even if the party in power does.
I'm sad to say, I'm with Private Frazier.
Mac.
 
Just wanted to add. There is a Chinese company using BMW spec batteries which are offering 54kwh (154ah) batteries for the i3. MGT is the company and I have already contacted them for a price.
Not that my i3 Rex range has diminished, or the battery pack needs replacing, I am curious to see if it’s worth upgrading.
Currently my i3 gets 64mpg and about 105 miles of petrol only range with the Rex.
My i3 has now done 104039 miles.
With electric, (when charging at home at 5pp/kwh) it boosts the mpg figures through the roof.
It’s only public charging which is a pain at 66pp/kWh in Scotland. Which is more than petrol vs 4.5mi/kWh.
I can avoid the high cost of public charging, by using the Rex more, which not really saving much on driving costs.
I can get 110-120 miles on electric at the moment, in summer it will be 120-140.
With a 54kwh pack it should go 210-240 miles to a charge.
I love my i3 and never want to sell it.
My daughter has just turned 17 and has been given driving lessons for her birthday. I am looking for a storm yellow A2 for her first car.

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The Government is basically a marketing agency, doing their best to look green, cuddly and caring.
The machinery of Government, the Agencies, (DVLA, Passport, etc), the Departments, (DHSS, Immigration, etc), and the Civil Service, are unable to carry out the basic management and administrative functions they are each responsible for.
This will not change, even if the party in power does.
I'm sad to say, I'm with Private Frazier.
Mac.
This guy? He talks a lot of sense but did try and steal the captains job, hilariously reading out (in his thoughts) his letters of application to the viewers
 
So agree and actually not such a green proposition.
Aluminium is infinitely recyclable.
With respect, I have not studied the recycling options for carbon fiber plastic and adhesives or aluminum. Did BMW use trickle down formula one construction technology? The pasemger safety cell should be able to withstand greater impacts and dissipate the energy into the structure with less deformation compared to alloy.
I got side tracked, sorry about that, my point is if you buy a second hand car it is being reused over and over between each owner.
Once a product has been produced the carbon/energy of construction is embedded in the car. Those values, are they provided to the consumer when buying new?
Long story short buy second hand and keep the vehicle running for as many years as possible. That would be the greenest thing to do.

I'd happily own a 2nd hand BMW Rexy and not have a care in the world about the environmental impact of a second hand vehicle.
reduce, reuse, recycle
 
Those values, are they provided to the consumer when buying new?
Hopefully they will be; there's a legislation in development by UNECE since 2023
that should harmonize the life cycle impact assessment in automotive sector.

Companies already do life cycle assessments of their cars, but this is not so widely advertised.

There is a also Green NCAP, which seeks to install a sort of a rating of car sustainability
through LCA, but their methodology is exclusive of many factors, as of today.
 
Good Evening,

You have to laugh. The compere stresses the need to wear insulated gloves during work and then wriggles cables with bare hands!

Andy
 
If/when I buy an EV I will do my best to buy European, ideally VW Group. Whilst I agree that we should keep things as long as possible by repair, renovation and reuse (buildings, equipment, etc), and I try to do that [and I also buy bio gas for my boiler!].

However, there are other environmental issues, especially with diesel. I like many were seduced into buying diesel (A2 was my first) whilst not taking into account the health impact of the exhaust emissions.
 
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