When the CHIPS are down

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SIMMO,, I have now done 5000 miles in mine.

The performance is still amazing, especially between 2000rpm and 4000rpm,, any gear, it just takes off.

Fuel wise,, if I drive it around town all week with loads of stop start and general traffic stuff I will get about 350 miles between pit stops.

That is from a full tank to the DIS reading 0 miles to go.. this is 35litres as the car reserves 7Litres which is hidden from the DIS calculations [about 70miles beyond the Zero reading if you are feeling lucky],, so this equals 55mpg.

If I stick to the motorway and stay at a steady 70mph, under the above pit stop rules I get an average of 450miles,, so this equals 70mpg.

If I enjoy the CHIP by driving hard when ever I feel like it,, taking it into the red line etc and holding on to naughty motorway speeds [just to pee other Audi's off,, TT's etc] then I will get around 400miles per pit stop.. that is still over 60mpg.

I did a 400mile round trip this weekend, mainly night driving,, this was two up with luggage, my camera equipment and the addition of 110kg of audio equipment,, mixture of M/Way and A-roads. It took me about 2 hours 30mins each way and even allowing for slow moving traffic my DIS says I still have 46miles to go and the fuel indicator/ping hasn't come on yet.

The car is just as quiet as before, there appears to be no issues that I am aware off and I am still smiling behind my tinted windows like a little boy who has just discovered girls.
 
quote:Originally posted by Keith

quote:Originally posted by ianjohnsonws14

SOC - The companies I have approached in the UK do not have upgrades for the 1.4 Petrol, I wish we had bought a diesel but my wife, who usually drives the A2, doesnt like them.
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There are at least 2 continental companies doing "petrol 1.4" chips, (links on A2OC) but sadly I've not yet found one in the UK either.
Some UK companies do the VW 1.4 in Polo form, but not specifically the A2. about +8bhp is claimed for Polo.

However the German firm of WES (formerly AH tuning) claim 90bhp which is +15bhp(+20%).
Cost is €450 + €80 fitting + €190 guarantee.
see http://www.wes-chip-tuning.de/wes/modell/audi/audi29.html

Although tempted I can't justify the expense of driving to Germany, although they will post it and you can fit it yourself.

I'm a little cautious about how much extra torque the 1.4 16V gearbox will handle on the A2 as its uniquely made of magnesium, unlike the Polo, or A2 TDI. WES offer a guarantee on their installations (extra cost), so I guess they think +20% power & torque is OK.
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djb
 
quote:Originally posted by Keith

quote:Originally posted by ianjohnsonws14

SOC - The companies I have approached in the UK do not have upgrades for the 1.4 Petrol, I wish we had bought a diesel but my wife, who usually drives the A2, doesnt like them.
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There are at least 2 continental companies doing "petrol 1.4" chips, (links on A2OC) but sadly I've not yet found one in the UK either.
Some UK companies do the VW 1.4 in Polo form, but not specifically the A2. about +8bhp is claimed for Polo.

However the German firm of WES (formerly AH tuning) claim 90bhp which is +15bhp(+20%).
Cost is €450 + €80 fitting + €190 guarantee.
see http://www.wes-chip-tuning.de/wes/modell/audi/audi29.html

Although tempted I can't justify the expense of driving to Germany, although they will post it and you can fit it yourself.

I'm a little cautious about how much extra torque the 1.4 16V gearbox will handle on the A2 as its uniquely made of magnesium, unlike the Polo, or A2 TDI. WES offer a guarantee on their installations (extra cost), so I guess they think +20% power & torque is OK.
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I have found a company who do chips for A2 petrol. The price is £ 404.00 incl. VAT.
Scotts Mototune Ltd
Contact Harald Peters mailto:[email protected]

Regards
Davidb

djb
 
Does anybody know if the "mild" ABT chip for the 1.4TDi (95bhp) is a valid Audi upgrade and subsequently does not effect the UK warranty? Audi UK say they THINK it does invalidate it but they are checking to make sure. I understand from other posts on the forum that its OK on the continent? Has anybody had this confirmed in the UK?

Ricardo
 
If that IS the case, I wonder what kind of warranty Heritage Audi of Salisbury are offering on their 100hp 1.4 TDI Sport (100hp)

I WAS tempted to have a look at this car but decided the price was way too high!!
If you use www.audiukusedcar.co.uk and do a search for a 1.4 tdi sport, one of the search results will bring up this car.

Alternatively, here is a direct link which brings up text details only. http://www.audiukusedcar.co.uk/scrolingspec.asp?now=09/07/200322:41:13

The car itself is obviously under warranty - are the dealers going to honour the manufacturers warranty or not?

Wish I'd asked before buying elsewhere!!


tikki



A2 1.4TDI SE - 108 BHP - Pine Green
A4 1.9TDI SE - 137 BHP - Black with Cream Leather
 
Don't want anyone to be dishonest or anything, however the fact is, if you don't make a big point out of telling your dealer about the chip, they won't generally worry. Even though when they drive it they will realise.
It is easier for them to make money from Audi getting warranty payments than it is for them to tell you that it isn't covered anymore, get into an argument and then lose you as a customer to another cheaper no franchised service agent of which there are plenty of competent ones around.
Like us, dealers want the easiest way out and so warranty payments from Audi will do just fine thanks.
Unless you drive your chipped A2 like a race car (in which case you've bought the wrong thing anyway) the extra strain that you are putting on the components when you are using the extra power will be minimal. The liklyhood of this manifesting in ANY huge repair bills is very slim.If it does happen you may have to ask yourself if the fact is it probably would have happened anyway.
Don't worry, just enjoy your extra performance when you do occasionally dip into it.
Cheers all.
 
Further to Tims post - probably unlikely that they would know it was chipped even if they drove it. They would have to drive it harder than i would like anyone to drive a car of mine (other than myself on occassions) to notice any real difference. They would then have a hard time confronting you if they had ragged the engine somewhat.

Chipping is undetectable generally - especially on the TDI's as there is generally no increase in turbo noise, wastegate, dump valve groans etc that you can get with some petrol turbo chips. The only real way to find out would be for them to locate and extract the ECU, open it up and look inside - quite some hassle really.

I have a A4TDI in addition to an A2TDI - both chipped and I just take them to the dealer for servicing/warranty work without putting the original chip in, even if they are going near the ECU. Truth is, the mechanics probably dont give a S$$$t anyway - they want to service, repair your car with minimum fuss, move on to the next one, go home and have a cup of tea etc.
 
One of the best things about living in blighty is the afformentioned work ethic. Do as little as possible! I.e don`t go and create extra work for yourself
 
The decision has been made and the appointment booked the car is in for a little bit of neuro-surgery on the morrow. Should come back with a little more attitude.
 
As chipping seems a no-go for the 1.4 petrol......has anyone tried other methods,to improve performance(Air-filters.spark plugs..etc.)??

Also, apparently the latest Skoda Fabia uses the same engine as the A2 and Polo,but develops 100 bhp,instead of the 75 bhp of the A2 and Polo......does anyone know what changes the Fabia engine has over the 75 bhp engine,and if the A2 engine can be modified to the 100 bhp specification.
 
The simple reason why the TDi's "chip" and the petrol dosn't is the T i.e. the Turbo Charger. The chips increase the maximum boost pressure (bit more complicated than that but essentially thats where the extra performance comes from).

The only way to re-chip and power boost a normally aspirated engine is to alter the ignition timing and fuelling which can give you 5% or so but usually effects emissions and/or drivability.

I doubt very much if the Skoda engine is "the same" as the Polo etc a 30% power increase in a normally aspiratedm engine means serious modifications - camshafts, exhaust and possibly pistons and conrods.

I dont know if anybody does one but Supercharging a petrol A2 would be fun [27]

Ricardo
 
Just checked there are 2 1.4 petrol engines in the Fabia 68PS 8 Valve and 100PS 16 Valve - the A2 1.4 is 75PS (& I think 8-valve). I believe the 100PS is the Audi FSI unit which is 16v and not available in an A2 in the UK. So if I am right it sounds like the A2 1.4 is already "chipped" compared the Fabia's - sorry.

Ricardo
 
Thanks for that shezlee but if you read the above - Mal was talking about the PETROL 1.4 that is used in the Fabia and Polo. There appear to be 2 flavours in the Fabia, a 68PS and 100PS 1.4 Petrol. The 68PS is 4 cylinder 8 valve and the 100PS is 16v and I presume FSI. It was this unit that I mentioned was not available on the A2. I wasn't talking about the 1.6 FSI or TDi at all (which as you correctly point out is 6-valve 3 cylinder and chippable to 100BHP+).

Ricardo
 
There is a member of the german A2 forum who had his A2 Petrol tuned to 130 bhp... but there were some serious modifications involved. If anyone is interested, I can ask him..

Bye, Frido.

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A2 1.4 TDI 2003 S-Line, cobalt blue, CC, DIS, SatNav+, Apple iPod
now parents' car: A2 1.2 TDI 2002 silver, CC, DIS
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Hi frido.....can you ask him about his 'mods'....also,which one of the many changes to his car,he would most recommend.
 
I asked him and it seems I misunderstood, he had his 1,4 petrol chipped to 100 bhp, one company offers a 130-150 bhp Turbo conversion, but it is around 5000€. He had a new chip put in and a new air filter (around 550€ for the whole kit) and he seems pretty happy with it (although you have to run it with 98 ROZ Fuel at least)

The company that did it is called SKN tuning...

As I said, all info is second hand..:)

Bye, Frido.

P.S: I checked their website and it seems their UK branch can be reached via http://www.scottsmototune.co.uk

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A2 1.4 TDI 2003 S-Line, cobalt blue, CC, DIS, SatNav+, Apple iPod
now parents' car: A2 1.2 TDI 2002 silver, CC, DIS
My A2OC pics Homepage
 
I was speaking to Mike from Jabbasport the other day and he was telling me that most TDI's are using almost max boost anyway, when they chip a TDI they usually just increase the fueling. this is unlike a petrol turbo where they also increase the boost.

2002 TDI SE - Silver - Open Sky System
 
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