Bargepower
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I had a brand new A4 1.9 Tdi in 1996 (red I, more bhp) and once it was run in it would achieve high 40’s mpg
A2 Future Classic says Daily Mail!
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depronman
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Mine was a stag that I had a lot of time and love invested in. Bought in 1988 and had a bear metal re spray after mugging in wheel arm sections, inner arm repair panels, door bottoms, door skins, boot lid repair sections etc
The car had been zebart treated from new so the structure was reasonably well protected
New hood fitted and it was ready for my wedding and was used as the wedding car (weather played nicely)
It also took us round France a number of times and on those longer runs returned 34 mpg but normal usage was more like 28mpg
I guess that 20 plus years of ownership I simply got bored with it and to be honest I’ve never missed it
A few years latter I bought another open top car a focus cc3 and had that 9 years and replaced it with an A5 cab 18 months ago
I know they say modern cars have no soul but the A5 is the best of those 3 by some way and returns 50+ mpg on a run and never less than 44mpg
If only it had the V8 burble of the stag engine
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Edwrai
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The A4 convertible was/is a very heavy car..... had it down to low 30s.... normal 40s.... driving like Miss Daisy 45..... and that was on 45 mile journeys. Just because it says TDI does not mean it sips like an A2
My main car is a Seat Alhambra 7n with a 2.0tdi on a long trip it will return 57mpg on normal commuting etc the tank average is 48mpg
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JavaGreen
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Still have the Stag, had it since ‘86’?
JavaGreen
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The Stag I have is well sorted...... never ever did better than 26 mpg... but normally did 21mpg.... I am in the SOC and know of no one who has had one and got 28+ to the gallon. Now they have classic status and starting to fetch good money.
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JavaGreen
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Like I said, depends how you drive it, the A4 Convertible was a heavy motor due to the extra strength in the frame.
depronman
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I only ever got 34mog when in France when it was hot and doing long distances. Basically chock out to start up then ⅔ of the way in and after ½ mile all the way in. Mine was a well sorted engine on stainless steel exhaust with electric fans manual with o/d
Normal running in the uk (it was never my daily driver) on reasonable runs was around 25mpg getting to 28mpg on decent quiet A roads
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Normal running in the uk (it was never my daily driver) on reasonable runs was around 25mpg getting to 28mpg on decent quiet A roads
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JavaGreen
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All the golfs that we had 2.0 tdi never bettered 55 mpg, nice all the same.
Little Dog
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I don't think A2 is a future classic. They will always have a strong following but I don't ever see car collectors competing for them. I intend to drive mine and keep it going as long as I can. No retirement in a dry garage for my A2.
They will be a classic just like a 1970 Audi 80.
There will be people who remember them as 'mums car' or we had one many years ago.
Then add to the fact that they are aluminium the ones still in existence will have a value as they will not need massive body restoration due to rusted metal.
Will the be a collectors car? No/Yes..
No for the one that have been used.
Yes for the museum quality minimal miles examples.
we are already seeing this in the market place.
For me....I agree lets enjoy these very interesting vehicles...
There will be people who remember them as 'mums car' or we had one many years ago.
Then add to the fact that they are aluminium the ones still in existence will have a value as they will not need massive body restoration due to rusted metal.
Will the be a collectors car? No/Yes..
No for the one that have been used.
Yes for the museum quality minimal miles examples.
we are already seeing this in the market place.
For me....I agree lets enjoy these very interesting vehicles...
I personally don’t see the distinction between dry stored cars and work horses. Classic status to me refers to the car overall, regardless of condition and mileage - these elements reflect pricing. For example, a less than pristine Jaguar E-Type is no less of a classic than a concourse one. Factors such as vehicle age, innovation, style, form, function, rarity, engines, model designation, desirability (even amongst a small following) are some of the footprints toward classic status. For me, the A2 is so unique, so far ahead of its time, so well designed, engineered, and built, it will be recognised as a classic, more so in the years to come as we look back at its origins. There are motoring journalists out there that already subscribe to this fact.
The only thing going against the A2, as per my earlier post, is it’s modern styling. It could roll out of a dealer showroom today as is, especially married to an EV power plant.
The only thing going against the A2, as per my earlier post, is it’s modern styling. It could roll out of a dealer showroom today as is, especially married to an EV power plant.
Edwrai
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I bet people used to say that about MK1 escorts!
JavaGreen
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A classic car is generally a car that no longer requires car tax to be used on the road i.e over 40 years old. A modern classic is a car that:
1. Is no longer in production
2. is reasonably rare
3. Has a unique design and has a strong following/ marque/club etc
A2 seems to fit the Bill as a modern/future classic and will likely stand the test of time.
1. Is no longer in production
2. is reasonably rare
3. Has a unique design and has a strong following/ marque/club etc
A2 seems to fit the Bill as a modern/future classic and will likely stand the test of time.
Little Dog
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They were always going to be a sought after classic, it was a massively popular car and people aspired to a Mexico. They bought any Mk1 and modified it etc or just didn't get one. Now old and grey with spare cash, some of those are prepared to pay to get a dream motor from when they were younger. A Mexico is now silly money and clean basic cars are bringing good money. Something similar is now happening with 80s hot hatches (especially Fords, aspired to by the masses) and clean basic cars from the same range.
A2 is without doubt a unique and clever design but they were never popular with the masses. There is not a generation out there that wanted one who will be competing for one in the future. The market for these cars is us and we have them so I can't see them making big money in the future; or perhaps I got my definition of classic car wrong?
A2Steve
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I agree completely and this doesn't just apply to the A2. Those in their 30's now are probably the last generation of petrol heads/car enthusiats. Those currently becoming of car driving age have far less interest in cars than ever before (read an article somewhere but can't quote it as I can't remember where
) The generation below that will all be driving little electric boxes that look the same. Just embrace and enjoy what we have and whatever you do, don't invest £80k in a Sierra Cosworth as i'm sure that bubble will pop soon.
I believe that camp not a classic and camp classic will have to agree to disagree, Personally, I love the A2 for everything I've listed and can see why in due course it might be an attractive proposition. I, like most of us, didn't buy it with misgivings about its classic status or as a future investment opportunity, which is just as well. I bought it because I love everything about it from concept to execution. Regardless of who is right and who is wrong in the long run, or whose views are considered right or wrong in the here and now, the enjoyment will not be tarnished, nor will Audi's best kept secret be any less desirable amongst those that know.
I bought it because I love everything about it from concept to execution. Regardless of who is right and who is wrong in the long run, or whose views are considered right or wrong in the here and now, the enjoyment will not be tarnished, nor will Audi's best kept secret be any less desirable amongst those that know.