Opensky roof problems

My A2 is due in to Derby Audi on Thursday for its 2nd longlife service and they are keeping it in for a couple of days to look at the roof.
Am keen to hear what they say has happened, after hearing about everyone elses problems on here.
I've had my A2 for four years next month, so am now out of warranty. Guess i'll have to start fluttering my eyelashes at those nice technicians!!!

Although the roof is closed, its not fitting flush and can hear lots of wind noise at speed. Luckily also not letting in any wet.

I should probably start another thread for this, but my indicators are giving me grief as well this week. Fast/slow/intermittant flashing and sometimes nothing at all!

Will report back re the roof,
Cheers, Heather
 
Hi Heather
When you go to Derby Audi it may be worth taking a copy of the roof repair procedure Mark Briggs posted on the previous page (It's in German unfortunately but the pics clearly show whats involved in the 'fix') Suggest there must be a design fault with the roof and ask if they will submit a policy claim to Audi on your behalf. If the eyelashes don't work, a few tears may do the trick.
The flasher relay is also a known problem but fairly easy to fix - see link for more details
http://www.a2oc.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4895&highlight=flasher+relay

Cheers Spike
 
Following on from Mark's earlier post (and many thanks to him for the effort he put in to getting this repair kit made available), I have taken the decision not to progress a repair at this time.

Bearing in mind the age of our A2, and it's current value, I cannot justify the massive labour charge that I know there would be from Audi to carry this out. At least it would save the cost of a new roof unit, but the old one still needs to come off, be repaired, and then go back on (with the special jig).

Lets say 2 hrs to remove, 2hrs to repair, and 2 hrs to replace - plus bits and pieces - must be approx £600 (any views?). Now, how much is my 2001 A2 petrol worth - maybe £4k? I think that's too big a percentage to justify...

As we intend to keep the A2 for some years yet, I'm sure a sliding or non-sliding glass roof will have little effect on it's final value.

Maybe some comments will be forthcoming!
 
Thanks a million Spike for the info. I've printed off the open sky diagrams ... and am about to dash up to me Dad's (who can speak German)! for a quick translation.
As for the indicators, I wish I had time to ask one of the engineers at work to have a look (they are rather good at fixing aircraft) but will be without the A2 from tomorrow onwards so wont get the chance.
Desperate to get these done now as was on the M1 this morning with NO indicators working - Not good!!
 
Update on the open sky -
Took the A2 in last Wednesday for second service, indicator relay repair and to have a look at rather poorly open sky.
As ive been in the sky all week (at work) at stupid hours and uncontactable I didnt get to speak with Derby Audi until Saturday morning.
I can pick the A2 up tomorrow once the indicators are done, but will have to speak to a technician about the roof.
As yet, I dont know what has caused the problem, will find out tomorrow, but the receptionist said they need to do a modification which will cost £277 ... which may or may not work. If it doesnt, then i'll need a new roof!
I explained that this seems to be a common problem and she said that Audi may do it as a good will gesture.
Im really not prepared to pay £277 if its not going to work!

Will see what they say tomorrow
 
I'd say though that if it does, £277 is quite reasonable. It will be especially nice to have everything in order coming into the summer months!
 
Heather said:
Update on the open sky -
Took the A2 in last Wednesday for second service, indicator relay repair and to have a look at rather poorly open sky.
As ive been in the sky all week (at work) at stupid hours and uncontactable I didnt get to speak with Derby Audi until Saturday morning.
I can pick the A2 up tomorrow once the indicators are done, but will have to speak to a technician about the roof.
As yet, I dont know what has caused the problem, will find out tomorrow, but the receptionist said they need to do a modification which will cost £277 ... which may or may not work. If it doesnt, then i'll need a new roof!
I explained that this seems to be a common problem and she said that Audi may do it as a good will gesture.
Im really not prepared to pay £277 if its not going to work!

Will see what they say tomorrow
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Did you manage to get the problem with your open sky resolved? I've got the same problem with mine, does anyone know what the £277 repair was?

Thanks.
 
Slight glitch with the proceedings ... they will start work on it now on Monday so will let you know-
What they say the prob is
What they did
AND if it worked!!!! ... fingers crossed.
 
Result!!!!

Today i am very happy.
Derby Audi have had my A2 for a week and a half to repair the roof. After talking to customer services several times they agreed to pay for the £277 modification which may/may not fix the roof.
When they took the roof to bits they found that a new roof was necessary so the manufacturer has replaced it- parts and labour free of charge!
This is a great result as i thought i would have to stand half of the cost. I asked the cost of a new roof and was quoted around £2000
I enquired as to what would happen if it breaks again and they explained that as the manufacturer has stood all of the cost that it is not covered by any sort of warranty. But as it is a known fault with my car then Audi would obviously look in to it again.
I have had a courtesy 2ltr A4 to drive whilst mine has been in and although a nice car, not half as much fun to drive as the A2 ... im pleased to have it back.
Well done Audi for sorting this out!
If you have an A2 with a dodgy roof dont just refuse to use it. If they have replaced mine ...
 
Heather said:
Today i am very happy.
Derby Audi have had my A2 for a week and a half to repair the roof. After talking to customer services several times they agreed to pay for the £277 modification which may/may not fix the roof.
When they took the roof to bits they found that a new roof was necessary so the manufacturer has replaced it- parts and labour free of charge!
This is a great result as i thought i would have to stand half of the cost. I asked the cost of a new roof and was quoted around £2000
I enquired as to what would happen if it breaks again and they explained that as the manufacturer has stood all of the cost that it is not covered by any sort of warranty. But as it is a known fault with my car then Audi would obviously look in to it again.
I have had a courtesy 2ltr A4 to drive whilst mine has been in and although a nice car, not half as much fun to drive as the A2 ... im pleased to have it back.
Well done Audi for sorting this out!
If you have an A2 with a dodgy roof dont just refuse to use it. If they have replaced mine ...
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Great news indeed Heather!

It just shows that a little perseverance (and a bit of eyelash fluttering!) can win the day.

Here's hoping that you get many more years out of it - oh, and KEEP IT LUBRICATED!!!

Cheers,

Mike
 
No fluttering required this time Skipton!!!
Just hope the other drivers are as lucky ... and whats the best lubrication to use? ... dont want to damage me seals!!!
 
Heather said:
No fluttering required this time Skipton!!!
Just hope the other drivers are as lucky ... and whats the best lubrication to use? ... dont want to damage me seals!!!
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A lot of folks swear by spray lubricant, but I prefer the silicone lubricant intended for underground pipe seals - you'll struggle to find a harsher setting than that!

I get the stuff from B&Q, it comes in a little bottle with a nozzle and is a white, paste/liquid.

The thing that most people don't do when lubing up their seals, is to clean off the old gunk accumulated there - if you don't do this, then you'll just be creating a grinding paste that'll kill your rubber in no time at all.

It can be a little fiddly, and the rear section is nigh on impossible unless you take out the blind and do it from inside, but persevere and it'll be worth it in the end.

Once you've cleaned up the old cr*p that's accumulated, run a thin bead of the lubricant along all the rubber sections (there's an inner and outer seal), then work this in with your finger.

Do this all around (and on the glass panels themselves) and you'll have a super-slick, happy OpenSky!!

Cheers,

Mike
 
Good to hear someone has had success with their roof - well done!

I doubt I would get far talking to Audi due to the age of my A2 (2001) - it would still be interesting to find out if anyone gets the mod repair done rather than a full replacement.
 
Will have a trip to B&Q!

The fact is that everyone should get this open sky thing sorted ... its a manufacturing defect that seems to affect everyone that has an open sky. I dont see that the age of the car has a bearing. Mine's 4 years old (03) If youv'e shelled out the extra money for this feature and it doesn't work then the manufacturer should accept responsibility?

They couldnt do the mod as the mechanism which pulls the roof shut had snapped (glide rail?), sorry not very technical this end!
 
Heather, thats excellent news.

Mine's started making a few groaning noises from above the windscreen :mad:
 
spw said:
Heather, thats excellent news.

Mine's started making a few groaning noises from above the windscreen :mad:
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Ahhh, the noises and creaks from above the windscreen were driving me mad at the back end of summer last year.

I took Tank in, under warranty, and there was a technical bulletin that concerned this exact issue. 3 days later, all was well. I don't know what the solution was, but no parts were replaced.

Cheers,

Mike
 
Thanks Skipton,

Thats good to know. The cars due a service in a few weeks so i'll mention it.
I was torn between main stealer of independent Audi specalist and there wasn't much in it price wise. This might tip it in the favour of the stealer.
 
Hi Skipton,

Do you have any more details of the technical bulletin for the noisy opensky?
My cars just back from the stealers and there denying any knowlege of any such bulletin and there diagnostic was there was nothing at fault - however to fix it was a new mechanism at £2,000.

Less than impressed !! also annoyed that they said they'ed checked the brake lights and found on the way home ones not working.

sw
 
spw said:
Hi Skipton,

Do you have any more details of the technical bulletin for the noisy opensky?
My cars just back from the stealers and there denying any knowlege of any such bulletin and there diagnostic was there was nothing at fault - however to fix it was a new mechanism at £2,000.

Less than impressed !! also annoyed that they said they'ed checked the brake lights and found on the way home ones not working.

sw
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The technical bulletins are never shown to customers (or me!), but I did see the print-outs attached to my job-sheet and it concerned the spacing between panels and the sub-frame, which if too tight can cause creaking and sticking.

Cheers,

Mike
 
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