Chat Rip off fuel prices

JavaGreen said:
Government lost a huge amount of income when COVID was up and running…… with the vat and special tax on fuel…. They are more than happy to let it run. They know full well that motorists will moan a lot, but still pay up😟😟. They are just trying to balance the books with little effort…. besides, they wrote off billions of £s from all the crooks that fleeced the government through fraudulent COVID claims…. it was too much trouble to get it back😳 let the motorist pay is the new way forward🤬
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This.

and they’ve just launched an urgent enquiry to make sure the 5p cut reaches consumers, but as we’ve all learnt again what makes up fuel prices is a number factors that, eventually, while we all keep paying, muddy the waters enough to not lead to any conclusion.
 
The partygate inquiry led to the government being found guilty in that the PM blatantly lied…. the conclusion is that he does a grand job so should carry on regardless. Same with fuel…. they suck it out the ground therefore, they feel it is only right that they suck the living daylights out of your earnings to pay for the privilege. 🧐
 
Pig boy said:
It always makes me laugh when people talk about electric cars , the amount of energy to produce one of these cars and the material needed to make these batteries is really damaging the environment before they’re drivin .
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You wish!

www.carbonbrief.org

Factcheck: How electric vehicles help to tackle climate change

Electric vehicles (EVs) are an important part of meeting global goals on climate change. They feature prominently in mitigation pathways that limit warming to well-below 2C or 1.5C, which would be inline with the Paris Agreement’s targets.
www.carbonbrief.org www.carbonbrief.org

www.transportenvironment.org

How much CO2 can electric cars really save?

To answer this question we have developed a tool that compiles all the most up-to-date data on CO2 emissions.
www.transportenvironment.org www.transportenvironment.org

RAB
 
dj_efk said:
Your last point is a good one - I was watching a video on a car dealer’s YouTube channel I subscribe to and he was saying how a lady was trying to part-ex her 3 litre Chelsea tractor for something smaller / more efficient- he turned the deal down flat (didn’t even low-ball offer) as he said he would never have any chance of selling it on at any price.

As A2 owners, we more than most car owners appreciate efficient packaging of space, light weight and good aerodynamics in a vehicle. Perhaps it’s not such a bad thing if over the next few years the wider public become more conscious of these things too.
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I watched that as well but as much as I love my A2 (1.4 petrol) and Smart Cabriolet (700cc petrol) when it comes to a comfortable long journey or towing my trailer, you can't beat a 3l (diesel) V6 Mercedes. As a plus all 3 are ULEZ compliant.
 

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Just wondering how this compares to any other FSI owners on fuel consumption? Here's the last couple of months costs for me, basically a 62 mile a day commute of mostly straight a roads and the odd trip around town?
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Very difficult to say. Certainly not bad, in the 40's mpg would be expected but so much depends on commute speed and driving style, number of roundabouts, traffic lights, junctions etc, possibly a tad low if you are driving conservatively every commute. My FSI mpg is much lower but lots of very short trips but the dis amazingly was showing 55mpg after 100 miles of fast motorway recently, reset at start.

Andy
 
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Andrew said:
Very difficult to say. Certainly not bad, in the 40's mpg would be expected but so much depends on commute speed and driving style, number of roundabouts, traffic lights, junctions etc, possibly a tad low if you are driving conservatively every commute. My FSI mpg is much lower but lots of very short trips but the dis amazingly was showing 55mpg after 100 miles of fast motorway recently, reset at start.

Andy
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My fast motorway driving only returns 42 mpg😳
 
RAB said:
You wish!

www.carbonbrief.org

Factcheck: How electric vehicles help to tackle climate change

Electric vehicles (EVs) are an important part of meeting global goals on climate change. They feature prominently in mitigation pathways that limit warming to well-below 2C or 1.5C, which would be inline with the Paris Agreement’s targets.
www.carbonbrief.org www.carbonbrief.org

www.transportenvironment.org

How much CO2 can electric cars really save?

To answer this question we have developed a tool that compiles all the most up-to-date data on CO2 emissions.
www.transportenvironment.org www.transportenvironment.org

RAB
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This is very true but the energy required to make these cars uses far more energy (which contributes to global warming) than conventional cars so in the long term there isn’t much difference in emissions over the life of the car . If we used say hydrogen or nuclear power to make and power these vehicles we may have a chance
 
Yellow_Peril said:
Just wondering how this compares to any other FSI owners on fuel consumption? Here's the last couple of months costs for me, basically a 62 mile a day commute of mostly straight a roads and the odd trip around town?
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I get about 40-45 mpg on the daily commute, but 50-55 mpg on a longer motorway/dual carriageway journey. ( sitting about 70mph). Thats on 15" 185mm alloys and running proboost. No undertray currently fitted, which im sure will help things a bit once i get it put back on.
 
Pig boy said:
This is very true but the energy required to make these cars uses far more energy (which contributes to global warming) than conventional cars so in the long term there isn’t much difference in emissions over the life of the car . If we used say hydrogen or nuclear power to make and power these vehicles we may have a chance
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Both articles I mentioned cover the carbon cost of production. Using hydrogen is effectively just a means of storing electricity; it is six to eight times less efficient than storing the equivalent electricity in a battery. This because of the inefficiency of the electrolysis process (about 50%), the inefficiency of hydrogen fuel cells (about 55%) and the energy required for compression of the gas and its distribution.

RAB
 
Pig boy said:
This is very true but the energy required to make these cars uses far more energy (which contributes to global warming) than conventional cars so in the long term there isn’t much difference in emissions over the life of the car . If we used say hydrogen or nuclear power to make and power these vehicles we may have a chance
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Source: US Environmental protection agency https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/electric-vehicle-myths#Myth5

as above, the greenhouse gases produced during the manufacture of an electric car and battery is higher than an ICE vehicle, but at that point the emissions stop, while the yellow bar shows the tailpipe emissions from a petrol car over it's life. Note that the grey bar represents the GHG for the US grid which is 60% fossil fuels, 20% nuclear and 20% renewables. UK is the reverse with 42%, 29% and 29%.

This video is an excellent way to understand the full lifecycle impact of fossil fuels vs electric
 
5.5l/100 on the way down in the Superb this morning, average of 100km/h. Filled up last night at 2.409€.
So that's £2.06 and 51mpg. Not bad for the barge....
 
The cheapest price around here in east devon according to confused.com’s price checker is Seaton Tesco at £1.879 / litre. It’s pay at pump only and a £99 limit per transaction- so for the first time ever when filling the Touran today it hit this limit before the tank was totally full!
 
Yellow_Peril said:
Just wondering how this compares to any other FSI owners on fuel consumption? Here's the last couple of months costs for me, basically a 62 mile a day commute of mostly straight a roads and the odd trip around town?
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I typically get 45mpg in mixed driving without economy in mind, if I just drive around town I get 40ish. I’ve seen 60mpg on an eco run and if do eco town and motorway i an easily get above 50mpg average.
 
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