RNS-E with LED screen
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wilco184
Member of the year 2015
Hi,
Unless you have a MK2 RNSE unit with the part number ending in 193 B, then it won't work.
Assuming you have a 193 B version, as Mike has said, you need to downgrade to SW150, code the unit to work with an A6 (4B) then upgrade the software to SW220. Other possible causes are that the CAN High and Low wires are swapped or disconnected.
Regards,
Matt.
Unless you have a MK2 RNSE unit with the part number ending in 193 B, then it won't work.
Assuming you have a 193 B version, as Mike has said, you need to downgrade to SW150, code the unit to work with an A6 (4B) then upgrade the software to SW220. Other possible causes are that the CAN High and Low wires are swapped or disconnected.
Regards,
Matt.
wilco184
Member of the year 2015
Hi,
A 'G' unit won't work fully with the A2's electronics unless a 'CAN-gate' is used. These are quite rare and I'm not sure if they're still produced.
To downgrade, you need either an old map disc with the correct software or a just a software disc containing SW150. VCDS is then used to force a downgrade, as simply putting the disc in won't downgrade; it must be specially chosen.
Regards,
Matt.
A 'G' unit won't work fully with the A2's electronics unless a 'CAN-gate' is used. These are quite rare and I'm not sure if they're still produced.
To downgrade, you need either an old map disc with the correct software or a just a software disc containing SW150. VCDS is then used to force a downgrade, as simply putting the disc in won't downgrade; it must be specially chosen.
Regards,
Matt.
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wilco184
Member of the year 2015
Hi,
Information about the CAN-gate is not well known on here unfortunately. There is only one member that uses one as far as I know, so you may have to wait for a reply.
Regarding parking sensors showing on the screen, please be aware that it's not possible with the standard A2 parking sensor controller. It is possible, but the controller needs to be changed.
Regards,
Matt.
Information about the CAN-gate is not well known on here unfortunately. There is only one member that uses one as far as I know, so you may have to wait for a reply.
Regarding parking sensors showing on the screen, please be aware that it's not possible with the standard A2 parking sensor controller. It is possible, but the controller needs to be changed.
Regards,
Matt.
craigyb
A2OC Donor
Lets be clear, it's a "cangate" module he needs and not a can gateway.
The cangate was made by a guy called Bjarne and he stopped making them several years ago. They are very rare.
A can gateway is the VW/Audi/Seat/Skoda module at the heart of the car which passes information between all the buses, can, lin and MOST. really it should not be called a can gateway anymore as it handles more than just can, but in the early days it just handled can.
You should be able to enter a pin regardless of how the unit is configured and as for talking to the cluster, in A4 mode a G unit will talk quite happily. Just wont navigate.
The G Model has the physical pin removed for the speed pulse, so even downgrading it to A6 mode wont help with navigation as stated above, only B's typically have the pin with Hardware H02/03. The can be downgraded to sw version 150 using VAG COM and a disk from 2010 (set software mode to 1 in the adaption channel and insert an older disk)
An RNS-E with power will accept a pin, 192 or 193 version and any software.
So much misinformation in the above posts it was making my brain hurt.
The cangate was made by a guy called Bjarne and he stopped making them several years ago. They are very rare.
A can gateway is the VW/Audi/Seat/Skoda module at the heart of the car which passes information between all the buses, can, lin and MOST. really it should not be called a can gateway anymore as it handles more than just can, but in the early days it just handled can.
You should be able to enter a pin regardless of how the unit is configured and as for talking to the cluster, in A4 mode a G unit will talk quite happily. Just wont navigate.
The G Model has the physical pin removed for the speed pulse, so even downgrading it to A6 mode wont help with navigation as stated above, only B's typically have the pin with Hardware H02/03. The can be downgraded to sw version 150 using VAG COM and a disk from 2010 (set software mode to 1 in the adaption channel and insert an older disk)
An RNS-E with power will accept a pin, 192 or 193 version and any software.
So much misinformation in the above posts it was making my brain hurt.
A4NOY
Member
What are your thoughts on why it won't take a code ... the code is correct going by whats been written on and what Audi tell me it should be......
Also which led display units will fit without much messing around and can still work with the Dis , phone module and mfsw already installed..
Also which led display units will fit without much messing around and can still work with the Dis , phone module and mfsw already installed..
Birchall
Dick Chown Award 2016
The code may refer to another unit and Audi can only give you the code of the unit that was originally fitted, perhaps the previous owner replaced a faulty RNS E with this one?
So my money is on it being the wrong code for this unit.
Steve B
wilco184
Member of the year 2015
Interesting. Thanks for the clarification. I assume that the illumination etc would also work in this mode?
I'm not sure if your 'misinformation' comment was aimed at me or Dan, but please correct me where possible. I'd much rather learn from mistakes than be left with an empty comment that frankly, I found a little insulting.
Thanks,
Matt.
Maybe you can glean some more background info from Craig's previous posts - http://www.a2oc.net/forum/showthrea...-car-and-full-voice-control&highlight=cangate
http://www.a2oc.net/forum/showthrea...-a-2010-RNS-E-PU-into-an-A2&highlight=cangate
Cheers Spike
http://www.a2oc.net/forum/showthrea...-a-2010-RNS-E-PU-into-an-A2&highlight=cangate
Cheers Spike
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Birchall
Dick Chown Award 2016
Hi,
Yes, I have a mk2 LED RNS E.
I went to a specialist installer who told me that the MK2 RNS E would not fully operate in an A2.
All I did was to point them to this forum and tell them that the exact spec was explained fully on here.
They were VERY impressed with the thread that explained which hardware version and part numbers (I think it was the one that Spike has provided to link to).
They were convinced it couldn't be done, but they didn't know that we have some genuine experts on here.
I don't know the details of the model they fitted but they followed the advice that was on here.
Steve B
craigyb
A2OC Donor
Let me just clear up the misinformation as I seem to have upset people...
1. The firmware needs down grading to accept the code. What model mk2 rnse is it? Cheers Mike
Not true, the right pin code will work regardless
2. Other possible causes are that the CAN High and Low wires are swapped or disconnected.
Again, this is not true
3. A 'G' unit won't work fully with the A2's electronics unless a 'CAN-gate' is used
Probably a typo, I'm sure you meant "cangate"
4. and nor will it communicate correctly with the DIS.
It will communicate in A4 and A6 modes, but not correctly in A3/TT/R8 modes as they use a can gateway to talk to the cluster
As for the post about the code and swapping the unit.
"What are your thoughts on why it won't take a code ... the code is correct going by whats been written on and what Audi tell me it should be......
Also which led display units will fit without much messing around and can still work with the Dis , phone module and mfsw already installed.."
My A3 unit (Rev B) quite happily accepted it's code in all modes and on the bench, but it might be the swapping to A3 mode and can compatibility. Only way to be sure is downgrade and change back again. I'm a bit surprised you had a A3 unit coded for A6 mode, who did that? was it bought that way?
I have some suspicions that you might have an older unit, where was the G confirmation? on the lid? or could you read it in VCDS? have you checked the hardware revision in VCDS? that is crucial as the H02 or H03 units do have the pins for the speed pulses (not impulses).
AFAIK there are no units which work with the audi DIS/MFSW fully. Most have there own phone kits built in and such, like DAB radio or TV interface. Most good units seem to be able to read a can bus or resistor ladder style MFSW, but with limited control, probably volume and channel,, but it maybe programmable, I've never looked at this option fully.
I have often wanted to swap to a 3rd party unit, better navigation, USB etc integrated DAB, but there is just nothing that works well.
1. The firmware needs down grading to accept the code. What model mk2 rnse is it? Cheers Mike
Not true, the right pin code will work regardless
2. Other possible causes are that the CAN High and Low wires are swapped or disconnected.
Again, this is not true
3. A 'G' unit won't work fully with the A2's electronics unless a 'CAN-gate' is used
Probably a typo, I'm sure you meant "cangate"
4. and nor will it communicate correctly with the DIS.
It will communicate in A4 and A6 modes, but not correctly in A3/TT/R8 modes as they use a can gateway to talk to the cluster
As for the post about the code and swapping the unit.
"What are your thoughts on why it won't take a code ... the code is correct going by whats been written on and what Audi tell me it should be......
Also which led display units will fit without much messing around and can still work with the Dis , phone module and mfsw already installed.."
My A3 unit (Rev B) quite happily accepted it's code in all modes and on the bench, but it might be the swapping to A3 mode and can compatibility. Only way to be sure is downgrade and change back again. I'm a bit surprised you had a A3 unit coded for A6 mode, who did that? was it bought that way?
I have some suspicions that you might have an older unit, where was the G confirmation? on the lid? or could you read it in VCDS? have you checked the hardware revision in VCDS? that is crucial as the H02 or H03 units do have the pins for the speed pulses (not impulses).
AFAIK there are no units which work with the audi DIS/MFSW fully. Most have there own phone kits built in and such, like DAB radio or TV interface. Most good units seem to be able to read a can bus or resistor ladder style MFSW, but with limited control, probably volume and channel,, but it maybe programmable, I've never looked at this option fully.
I have often wanted to swap to a 3rd party unit, better navigation, USB etc integrated DAB, but there is just nothing that works well.