Warning Light ABS? Brakes? Unsure

I’ve just been reading about abs pump and control repairs, companies such as ECUrepairs are all saying the eps/ traction/ abs lights are classic symptoms of it failing, and also then failing to communicate with the ecu. I’m wondering if it’s worth a shot sending it off for testing and repair? apparently they keep the coding so when it’s returned it’s plug and play.
Thinking about it when I was having trouble with mine a few auto electricians said it could be the earth to the pump and to try and add an earth from body of the pump to chassis however that didn't look straight forward and luckily for me touch wood the brake light switch was my issue
 
I don't know if it's practical, but is it possible to disable the immobiliser on another ECU, and swap the suspect, (by me anyway), ECU out for a while?
Would rule the ECU in or out.
Mac.
 
I don't know if it's practical, but is it possible to disable the immobiliser on another ECU, and swap the suspect, (by me anyway), ECU out for a while?
Would rule the ECU in or out.
Mac.
That’s not a bad idea! Who’s best to contact to get one?
 
I know where the ecu connector is, how wou I check the dash cluster? I changed out the Yaw sensor today, and the same as usual, 5 miles or so and it does the same.
i did another scan, and got this….DTC memory??
This comes up every time I scan, is this a clue?
Im assuming that I scan in ‘ABS’ and don’t need to look elsewhere?

That's the exact set of warning lights and so on we're getting on our AUA intermittently, albeit more regularly in the last fortnight hence the reason I am driving it at the moment instead of my BHC which is on loan to my other half until I resolve the issue(s). I think ours has some overlaps with yours but other issues that are distinct - I see yours is a diesel from the rev counter. So far the events provoking the light show are almost always during a gentle brake application, maybe going over a road joint - sudden warning pings and everything lighting up. Brakes and everything else work normally until I am able to stop, switch it off and on again and everything goes away. Not getting the crackle of static over the radio I had when my BHC brake light switch played up, and all three brake lights work normally. I am going to check the bulbs, and I do have a new authentic brake switch to swap in.

Errors stored - 18049 - Please check DTC Memory of A/C ECU P1641 (which I can't with the reader); 17961 implausible manifold air pressure sensor (sporadic). ABS actuator test completely normal. Radio 01317 ECU error for sporadic loss of communication with dashboard cluster ; Dashboard ECU error 01304 for sporadic loss of communication with the radio. ABS ECU - 01314. Check Engine ECU DTC memory.

I've also been reading the following thread with some very useful insights from @ajsellors in case the issue is more deep-seated.
 
If you're messing with brake light switches, make sure you follow the fitting procedure. For the 4 pin "new" style, this is it:
The brake light switch must not be operated while the brake
light switch is being installed. The brake pedal may only come
into contact with the push rod head of the brake light switch
during the whole installation process.
– Guide the brake light switch through the assembly aperture
and push it with the push rod head against the brake
pedal.
- Then turn the brake light switch through 45° to the right
until it noticeably engages


You identify new style switches by the different coloured tip on the pushrod. (white part)
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There is a procedure for the old type, but to be honest, if you take it out, I'd just bin it and get a new one. Personally, I wouldn't bother with the generic ones because the design is questionable enough as it, never mind when its been "optimised" by a patent part maker. Real ones are not too expensive from the dealer, or dealers trading on eBay. For completeness, the procedure for the OLD switch only (Taken from Golf 4 manual but I believe it is the same, please correct if wrong :)).
Before installing, pull plunger out fully.
– Push brake pedal down as far as possible by hand.
– Guide brake light switch through fitting hole and reinstall by
turning 90° to right.
– Release brake pedal.
– Fit brake light switch connector.
– Check function of brake light.
– After adjusting the brake light switch check whether the brake
pedal is on the end stop (rest position).

Can the people having this issue, with VCDS, post Autoscans? Makes it a lot easier to diagnose

As for the issue at hand, people with VCDS, could you post Autoscans? That gives logs of all modules and is much more helpful when identifying issues. @datsundrew when you did you scan, did you check the DTC memory in the "Engine" block in VCDS? The fault code is telling you there is fault code logged in the ECU that it wants you to check.

@Robin_Cox That first error I would guess is something to do with cooling fan. The last error (01314) I assume is actually being triggered by (17961). The sporadic communication errors are possibly incidental, they could come from the radio beng removed for example. Clear all the errors and see what comes back.

Assuming brake light switches, sensors, etc. is all okay, I would say there are three distinct failure categories:

1. ABS or ECU dry joint. ABS and ECU talk over CAN bus, if there is a dry joint in one of these modules, they may occasionally lose connection and cause these errors. Most module should be repairable by soldering, but to be honest it would cheaper to get a good used part in most cases. In these situations, you will have intermittent communication errors logged in one or both modules, and possibly the dash.
2. Wiring fault - "Simple", a wiring fault with power or powertrain CAN. Look at the loom for damage and check earths. You need to check between the ECU, ABS and Dash.
3. Dash/Gateway dry joint - The ABS and ECU CAN bus also connects to the gateway in the dash, if you have dry joints or connection issues, the dash will show an error because it has lost connection with the ABS controller. This should generate an error in the dash stating that it has lost connection. If it were a fault on the dash end, I might expect to momentarily see a glitch with the Tachometer or Speedometer when the connection drops.


With autoscans it might be easier to say that "x" pattern of faults points to an issue with "x" thing.
 
Maybe a bit of a curveball from me but here goes ...
I had the same dash lights come on last Friday when starting to reverse out of a carpark ... I stopped immediately, turned the ignition off and restarted ... the lights went out. Put the car into reverse and again the lights came on.
Proceeded to drive home with the warning lights still on and arrived at the ferry terminal ... restarted the car when the boat arrived and drove forwards onto the ferry ... warning lights had cleared and stayed off until I got home.
Scanned the car and started to investigate.
I could trigger the warning lights with just the ignition switched on and selecting reverse gear every time.
Here's the curve ball, I don't know why it's connected but it's fixed the problem.
The 13mm nut (circled in red below) that holds the gear selector counterweight onto the splined shaft on the gearbox had come loose allowing it to move up and down.
This was tightened up and the problem went away ... I loosened it off again to prove the theory and the lights came back on when reverse gear was selected.
Seems a long shot to the OP's request for information but the symptoms were the same and I had previously loosened this nut to remove the starter motor ... I'll remember to make sure it's tight in future!


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You would think it must be but the gearbox is all mechanical so I don't know how it would know if the box was trying to engage the wrong gear. What fault code did it generate?
 
Be interested to know the status of the clutch pedal switch if that's good then in the words of dragons den "I'm out!"
 
It triggered two engine faults:
18081 Speed signal - intermittent
18057 Powertrain Bata Bus - Intermittent

ABS Brakes fault:
00003 Control module intermittent.
 
Yes indeed you would! It's a long shot and I don't think our cars are that technical to somehow be concerned the way I am thinking!
Suppose its a case of abs fault, check your nuts!
 
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