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neo said:
Jbl Club 704 4 channel amplifier
Audison Voce k6 speakers
Jbl Club A1 Mono amp
Pioneer 12" subwoofer, ported box
1F capacitor
Sound deadening (doors only)



I think those would sound better than the factory ones, but I'm biased :D.
To install front speakers you need a set of adapters, but the only set of adapters for an A2 speakers that I know of are these and they don't fit.
Attached photo are those exact ones modified in order to fit front doors mounting plate 8Z0837849 and give room to check strap end.
After modifications I've done on my sound system it sure was a slippery slope, but a fun one :).
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Nice!

Proper bouncing as your drive then! ;-)
 
In for it’s MOT today. I am confident it will pass……. Famous last words, if it doesn’t will the current one will still be valid until expiration date? Kimbolton on Sunday, don’t want to miss that!
 
CrispyEdd said:
Excellent! New parts? I bought 3 compressors 2nd hand and needed the gasket form one on the top manifold of the compressor as it had dried out and leaked like hell.
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New condenser (the one on it has cracked) and also while I'm there a new dryer. The compressor is only about 7 years old so hopefully all good for a few years now.
 
Sootywg said:
In for it’s MOT today. I am confident it will pass……. Famous last words, if it doesn’t will the current one will still be valid until expiration date? Kimbolton on Sunday, don’t want to miss that!
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My understanding of this is that in the past a failure before the current mot expires meant the car was legal (may not have been safe) to drive in the road. This was always a grey area as from an insurance standpoint point you are then driving a known defective vehicle.
However it all changed when the mot went digital/electronic/on line, and my understanding is now if you take the car for an mot upto one month early if it passes then you have upto 13 month mot but if it fails then the current mot is null and void
This is certainly what my mot testing mate told me a few years ago and he was going to check this understanding with the ministry on his next refresher course, I never got told any different so assume the above to be correct

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Got ‘size shamed’ by a car that made my ‘little A2’ appear enormous!!!
 
depronman said:
My understanding of this is that in the past a failure before the current mot expires meant the car was legal (may not have been safe) to drive in the road. This was always a grey area as from an insurance standpoint point you are then driving a known defective vehicle.
However it all changed when the mot went digital/electronic/on line, and my understanding is now if you take the car for an mot upto one month early if it passes then you have upto 13 month mot but if it fails then the current mot is null and void
This is certainly what my mot testing mate told me a few years ago and he was going to check this understanding with the ministry on his next refresher course, I never got told any different so assume the above to be correct
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Oh dear.

Cars which fail an early MOT remain entirely legal to drive on the public highway for the remainder of their existing certificate unless the tester specifically indicates in the refusal the presence of a dangerous defect that requires repair before the car can be driven again. And once any dangerous defects have been fixed, the car can still be driven until the old MOT expires.

MOT rules are very straightforward, and can be accessed on the Government website, starting here:
www.gov.uk

Getting an MOT

When you need an MOT for your vehicle, what it costs, what happens if your vehicle fails, and how to get mistakes on the MOT certificate fixed.
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk

UK insurers don't take the view that an MOT failure negates their legal obligations, and there is certainly no "grey area" involved.
 
steve_c said:
Oh dear.

Cars which fail an early MOT remain entirely legal to drive on the public highway for the remainder of their existing certificate unless the tester specifically indicates in the refusal the presence of a dangerous defect that requires repair before the car can be driven again. And once any dangerous defects have been fixed, the car can still be driven until the old MOT expires.

MOT rules are very straightforward, and can be accessed on the Government website, starting here:
www.gov.uk

Getting an MOT

When you need an MOT for your vehicle, what it costs, what happens if your vehicle fails, and how to get mistakes on the MOT certificate fixed.
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk

UK insurers don't take the view that an MOT failure negates their legal obligations, and there is certainly no "grey area" involved.
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I beg to differ on the no grey area comment
I have been specifically told by two different insurance companies that if you knowingly drive a motor vehicle with a dangerous defect that your insurance cover would be null and void
It makes a lot of sense if you think about it
Unfortunately once the mot man as stated that there is a dangerous defect you know about it
Technically the car can only be moved from the mot station on a trailer / low loader etc as the dangerous defect means the existing mot is void
Typically things like a broken spring are classed as dangerous so driving the car back home to change the spring would be illegal as you have no mot not to mention the fact that your insurance would be voided as well
Being honest you would probably get away with it unless involved in an accident or caught by the number plate cameras as the mot void is instant update to the dvla database

This was the reason I specifically asked by pet mot man some years ago as I thought it was a money making scheme for mot stations which also do repairs, his stance was using an mot station that does not do repairs leaves you in a very bad position if a dangerous fail is found because you then need to arrange collection of the vehicle and transport to your private drive or a repair garage to have the fault corrected then transport back to the mot station which all in all would be far more expensive than a garage doing the repair

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To clarify you can continue to drive your car until the existing mot expires even if your car has failed an 'early' renewal test unless it has failed and been recorded as having a 'dangerous' or 'major' defect meabing it isn't safe or fit to use on the road, which in my eyes is correct and, unusually for anything to do with government, just good common sense that I agree with 👍
 
A2Z said:
To clarify you can continue to drive your car until the existing mot expires even if your car has failed an 'early' renewal test unless it has failed and been recorded as having a 'dangerous' or 'major' defect meabing it isn't safe or fit to use on the road, which in my eyes is correct and, unusually for anything to do with government, just good common sense that I agree with
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Totally agree. The issue is that quite a lot of common failures fall under the major category eg a broken road spring


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depronman said:
Totally agree. The issue is that quite a lot of common failures fall under the major category eg a broken road spring


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Yes, i understand what you mean, that some items could still be perceived as relatively minor, particularly if you have been driving the car with that fault for maybe 6 months without a problem and all of a sudden you're told your current mot is void, you can't drive the car home and you have to pay to have it transported to a garage. That wouldn't be nice or something you would want to hear 😫

Major or dangerous should mean just that and i suppose that's where the grey area does come into it, whether something is actually dangerous or major or not but I suppose you would hope that's been pre-determined by 'experts' more qualified than us👍
 
The concept of MOT fail with dangerous defect has been around a long time, there used to be a MOT failure certificate printed in RED for such cases!

Andy
 
Andrew said:
The concept of MOT fail with dangerous defect has been around a long time, there used to be a MOT failure certificate printed in RED for such cases!

Andy
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I have certainly started an interesting discussion. For a vehicle to fail an MOT, it has by definition got a ‘major’defect (otherwise it is minor or advisory). I understand that the vehicle tester defines whether it is a ‘dangerous’ or not.
in my case the car has failed on excessive play in a steering joint (track rod end). The advise is that it is not dangerous and the current MOT is valid until expiry. The Fail certificate is however uploaded immediately to the DVLA, so ANPR would show the car as not having an MOT?
 
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