FSD group buy

Well, the WEITEC Ultra GT lowering kit (springs plus shocks) in fact comes with the same springs than the well known and very recommendable WEITEC 30/30 spring kit. :)

But the Ultra GT shocks for the A2 are tuned super sporty (too harsh). :mad: In the past German A2 Weitec Ultra GT users therefore switched to Koni FSD while continuing to use the Weitec springs...

If you want to improve the comfort level noticeably AND lower the A2 by 30 mm, the 1.4 TDI and FSI drivers should buy the Weitec 30/30 springs and combine them with the Koni FSDs. The optional 10 mm to 15 mm pressing of the front springs is recommended to compensate the potential FSD lifting effect for better looks.

But the 1.4 petrol drivers should go for the ABT springs (front 045VA, rear 046HA), because they potentially do realise true 30 mm of lowering at the front better than the Weitecs in this case. However, pressing the ABT front springs by 10 to 15 mm is recommended too in case of the very light 1.4 petrol in combination with Koni FSD dampers.

Most important is the often mentioned shortening of the yellow PUR bumpstops by 30 mm each , see here:
http://www.a2oc.net/forum/showthread.php?p=70725#post70725




I am only “promoting“ those suspension items that – by experience from other A2 drivers – proved to work OK with the A2 (being very nose heavy and for that quite difficult to tune right for good balance).
I think it is no coincidence that especially the suspension quality is directly connected to the price tag. The Konis and Bilsteins normally can be used in excess of 100000 km of mileage without mentionable signs of wear or even internal failures (mainly seals). These shocks do last very long. So when talking suspension we generally get what we pay.

IMHO a high-quality car like the long-lasting A2 should be equipped/upgraded with adequate aftermarket items only.
 
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Thanks. So it sounds like the Ultra GT damper kit might be about as harsh as the standard Audi setup.

Unless a decent discount is found with a group buy then I don't think I will go for the Konis. A worthy addition to a great car for those with the money to spend on it but currently there is no equilibrium purchase price that harmonises the main Koni suppliers offerings with my proffered budget.
 
Apologies for my ignorance but....

Am I right in thinking that if I fitted Koni FSDs with standard non-lowered springs and retained the standard bump stops, I would still get all the handling improvements associated with the FSDs?

If yes - would it be best to fit a new set of standard springs with the FSDs? My 2003 A2 tdi has done 62,000 miles since new.
 
alanm said:
Am I right in thinking that if I fitted Koni FSDs with standard non-lowered springs and retained the standard bump stops, I would still get all the handling improvements associated with the FSDs?

If yes - would it be best to fit a new set of standard springs with the FSDs? My 2003 A2 tdi has done 62,000 miles since new.
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FSD plus non-lowering does provide the maximum possible comfort increase.

But changing the 2 front springs is always highly recommended because the standard SE and also the sport edition Audi springs are prone to break often at the front. :mad:

Installing front springs (stock height) made by SPIDAN will help here. Also Weitec 30/00 is a highly recommendable option, especially if you want to compensate the potential 10 mm lifting effect induced by the front FSD shocks.

WEITEC 30/00 plus FSD should be the first choice (for better looks) for those A2 folks often carrying heavy objects in the boot.


The stock PUR bump stop length (front and rear) has not to be changed at all if there is no lowering involved. :)

The noticeable handling improvements associated with the FSD shocks are independent from the car height. But 30 to 35 mm lowering springs certainly will add even better handling capabilities :)
 
:confused:Thanks Schnelletrecker - very helpful info'.

From what I've picked up from previous posts, if I fitted the 30/00 spring combo, this would mean that the front end of the car would be lowered by 30mm. If so, the front bump stops would have to be cut.

Is that correct?
 
Would anyone know the part numbers for the bumpstops and the strut bearings, as a matter of interest...?

Thanks,

Jon
 
alanm said:
From what I've picked up from previous posts, if I fitted the 30/00 spring combo, this would mean that the front end of the car would be lowered by 30mm. If so, the front bump stops would have to be cut.

Is that correct?
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In case of Weitec 30/00 plus Koni FSD the car's front end would be lowered by about 20 mm because of the 10 mm raising effect of the FSD front shocks.

Yes, the front bump stops would have to be shortened by 20 to 30 mm.
 
Brabazon said:
Would anyone know the part numbers for the bumpstops and the strut bearings, as a matter of interest...?
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strongly recommended to change:

8Z0 412 301 - front bump stop (2 pieces)
6Q0 512 131 B - rear bump stop (2 pieces)
6 N0 412 249 C - strut bearing (2 pieces)​



also recommended to exchange especially in case of high mileage:

8Z0 511 149 A - rear, bottom spring yellow PUR rubber seat (2 pieces)
1J0 512 149 B , rear, top spring black hard-rubber seat (2 pieces)
6N0 413 175 A - dust protection for the front damper piston rod (2 pieces)
1J0 513 425 A - dust protection tube for the rear damper piston rod (2 pieces)
8Z0 411 315 D - droplink (2 pieces)​



suggested to exchange due to possible rust pitting:

N 019 530 3 - screw (6 pieces)
N 101 064 02 - nut (4 pieces)
N 101 389 02 - screw (4 pieces)
N 102 078 03 - screw (4 pieces)
N 102 613 10 - nut (2 pieces)
N 102 861 10 - nut (2 pieces)
N 104 018 01 - nut (2 pieces)
N 905 173 02 - screw (2 pieces)
N 906 484 02 - screw (4 pieces)
N 909 081 01 - nut (2 pieces)​


All above listed parts together will cost about 100 to 120 EUR but will provide you with another >100000 miles of trouble-free travelling.
 
Thanks Schnelletrecker that is a really helpful post as usual. So that we have all the suspension part numbers in one place, what parts would would need to correct excessive camber - where the front tyres are worn on the inside, probably due to the suspension being damaged by speed hump pillows? I believe the replacement part would be a Union Joint? Am I right or wrong? Grateful for the right part number(s). Thanks!

Back on topic, has the group buy fallen through? Even if there were 'only' six UK A2 drivers interested in both Koni FSD and Weitec springs, surely we could get a reasonable discount from one supplier?
 
Hi everyone.

Game over. Have to back out. Not enough people really interested. As mentioned, I needed 14 buyers + myself to get the price I was offered. As usual, lots of talk and no action:cool:.

Ltr, Didier
 
AMG said:
As usual, lots of talk and no action:cool:.
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Thanks for all your effort Didier. I hope from the above comment that you arent cheesed off with the troops?
I firmly believe you would have secured the 15 purchases if it hadnt been for the warranty issues. This is really short sighted on the part of the suppliers IMHO, but policies are policies and there will be myriad legalities covering these things Im sure.

Thanks again to yourself and Bret for all the legwork. :D
 
Sorry to hear this, such a shame, thanks for all your effort to take it as far as you did.
 
I emailed star performance in Kirkaldy today for a price fitted with new bits n bobs

and a price for ten sets as well.
 
£759 fully fitted quoted Alan at Awesome - includes Weitecs 25/00, new top front bearings. Interestingly, he was adamant that with that set up the bump stops do not need shortening. Also the case if Weitec 25/25 were fitted. Said they have done 20 FSD conversions on Audis in the past year and have had no problems. The FSD part of the price is £417 (incl VAT).

I'm now well :confused:
 
alanm

I had the same response from Awesome when I had my FSD's and 30/30 weitecs fitted last month. They were sure the bumpstops didn't need altering?? Not sure what to think. It seems bloody marvelous though!! And well worth the money!

David
 
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