Cruise Control retro-fit..

The Kufatec wires are intended to be fitted into the white 17-pin connector I believe - then extra wiring from the other side of the connector to the ECU is needed on all but the 1.4 petrol models.

When I do cruise fitting, I prefer to miss out this connector and go straight to the ECU, using soldered, not crimped, pins. I was always taught that a mechanical connection in a circuit was a potential weak spot, so I leave them out.

Horses for courses and all that!

Cheers,

Mike
 
As this is a safety critical part of the car you are dealing with, I would urge anyone thinking of installing cruise to get it done professionally, safe in the knowledge that it's done right and first time, with a warranty back-up.

I am not drumming up trade, as I don't advertise (word of mouth is my best advert anyway).

This, coupled with the fact that you need diagnostics kit to enable the mod mean that for the vast majority of owners, self-fitting isn't an option.

Cheers,

Mike
 
Hear, Hear! Safety has got to be paramount.

I've fitted aftermarket CC to my TDI Passat and this was straightforward as the kit was VAG and included a VAG loom and full model-specific diagrams and pin-outs. The VAG-COM bit was simple too.

Satyr is bang on right. What seems to be missing from this site is a straightforward definitive "Engine Code AMF: Pin x on stalk plug goes to Pin y on ECU"

I know that Mike isn't drumming up trade (and that his services are held in awe by everyone who has had work done) but maybe oversensitivity on the part of other A2OC members is preventing posting of this information. I certainly don't want to be taking work away from anyone but would rather do my own and learn in the process.

Just a thought - sorry if I'm speaking out of turn.

John
 
dilbert said:
Hear, Hear! Safety has got to be paramount.

I've fitted aftermarket CC to my TDI Passat and this was straightforward as the kit was VAG and included a VAG loom and full model-specific diagrams and pin-outs. The VAG-COM bit was simple too.

Satyr is bang on right. What seems to be missing from this site is a straightforward definitive "Engine Code AMF: Pin x on stalk plug goes to Pin y on ECU"

I know that Mike isn't drumming up trade (and that his services are held in awe by everyone who has had work done) but maybe oversensitivity on the part of other A2OC members is preventing posting of this information. I certainly don't want to be taking work away from anyone but would rather do my own and learn in the process.

Just a thought - sorry if I'm speaking out of turn.

John
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I'll understand why the information isn't available, that's fine by me. But detailed step by step photo guides have been available for other models, namely mk4 golf, tt, a3 and octavia so I don't see why if someone wish to share such information on the A2 shouldn't do so. I recall seeing a cruise fitting guide/thread for the A2 with the ECU pin information, probably on original A2OC site, can't find it anymore. It is something I wanted to fit but way down on the priority list (never had more than 10mins of constant speed on a UK motorway anyway, more useful if the CC stalk is in the shape of a playstation controller!). But if I do work out the connection details, I'll post it up.
 
I understand the critical aspects of going into this mod. But, Audi stealers charge 400 Euros for this, and I'm miles and miles away from Mike (Paris guy here :D). A visit to Skipton's could be possible for some hard work when I have time to move north, but if the parts cost 60 Euros or so, I would like to do it by myself if and only if I have the correct tools.

I would not be really bothered by activating the feature, as I could find someone here. My main concerns are:

1/ As Dilbert pointed out, knowing in advance where each wire goes would be a huge help,

2/ Removing the steering weel - I heard one needs a special tool... which one ?
 
Hi Satyr
I fitted cruise to my 2001 TDi (AMF engine code) and listed the pin nos on a post near the front of this thread. I used the Kufatec kit and connected into the white 17 pin connector just prior to the main ECU connector. Ref the post by Erstens, it appears this is only possible on year 2000 and 2001 cars - http://www.a2oc.net/forum/showpost.php?p=39568&postcount=4
Later models need the cruise cable running direct the the ECU connector as Mike indicated. I also soldered all the cable splices and would never use the unreliable cable crimps - the type with a 'blade' which cuts through the outer insulation.
Again, as Mike pointed out there are several safety related issues in doing the conversion, both in the wiring and airbag removal.

Details of the spline bit for removal of the steering wheel are covered here - http://www.a2oc.net/forum/showpost.php?p=41232&postcount=4

Cheers Spike
 
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Thanks, all!

My main problem with not having the connection data was that my copy of ELSA just keeps telling me that more information is needed for my car (it has the VIN, model code, engine code, gearbox code, driver's inside leg measurement, etc.) and insists on an Internet connection with VAG (which of course is never going to happen).

However yesterday I reinstalled it all and despite the same insistent nag I managed to coax it into showing the wiring diagrams (don't know how but yippee nevertheless!).

I'll post specific connection data here when I've done the job and all is working.

Now where did I put my spline drive set?

John
 
When you find out the connector information, be my guest and post away John.

My main concern with this issue is not the reservation of work for me, as the sort of person who would even contemplate removing their wheel, airbag, half the dash, centre console trim and disassembly
of their ECU isn't the sort of person who would come to me anyway.

No, my worries lie with the fact that you are dealing with the airbag, which if triggered and your face is in close proximity, will kill you! Even if you are lucky, replacement will still cost around £500.

Then, there's the correct routing of wires (and making sure that the loom is fit for purpose) so that they don't rub - I've seen a few examples of bad wiring, some done by a supposed professional installer, who will remain nameless.

Then, you need to wire 4/5 pins into an 84 pin connector and get them right first time, otherwise you could get to a situation where cruise won't turn off leading to a very dangerous driving situation.

The bottom line is this: if someone is determined to have a go, they'll not come to me in any case. However, there is a reason why many, many members have had me do cruise fits for them and that is because they know that the job will be done expertly in minimal time with the peace if mind of a 2 year warranty and they'll also benefit from me giving help and advice free if charge fir any other problems they might have.

Cheers

mike
 
I fully agree with Mike. I would live in UK, I wouldn't ask myself the question ;), but since I know I can do it, yet spending more time than Skipton, the question arises by itself... If I had a french version of Mike, now that would be great !:D

Btw, Mike, ever visited the Eiffel tower ? :rolleyes:
 
No, never been to France at all - flown over the place though, but 30,000 feet is the closest I've come to the country!

You will understand that as you have a possibly non-standard Kufatec cable, I am not at liberty to give accurate information on how to hook it up, even though I have done for others like you in the past, who have a large expanse of water between them and me!

Cheers,

mike
 
Skipton01 said:
The bottom line is this: if someone is determined to have a go, they'll not come to me in any case. However, there is a reason why many, many members have had me do cruise fits for them and that is because they know that the job will be done expertly in minimal time with the peace if mind of a 2 year warranty and they'll also benefit from me giving help and advice free if charge fir any other problems they might have.

Cheers

mike
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Here, here...

Almost 3 years since Mike weaved his magic and my cruise is still as faultless as ever.

Top quality craftsmanship from a top quality craftsman. Piece of mind is worth its weight in gold and with Mike that is exactly what you get.

Cheers,

Darren
 
There are a few options here Mervyn, so I'll probably post a fresh thread for the interested parties to sign up to.

Cheers,

Mike
 
Anyone know if it's possible to fit CC to a A2 1,2 Tdi? I've found a few kit's, but they don't seem to be compatible with the 3l version.
 
It can be done, but only after the ECU has been modified - the channels normally used by cruise control are taken up with the auto gearbox on the 1.2.

However, some folks have successfully completed the installation when the channels have been remapped.

Cheers,

Mike
 
Thanks for the info guys. Now it' starting to make sense why it's so difficult to get cruise for this model. Sounds a bit dodgy having to send your ECU all the way to Germany, but have to think about it.

Cheers!
Mika
 
Satyr said:
I understand the critical aspects of going into this mod. But, Audi stealers charge 400 Euros for this, and I'm miles and miles away from Mike (Paris guy here :D). A visit to Skipton's could be possible for some hard work when I have time to move north, but if the parts cost 60 Euros or so, I would like to do it by myself if and only if I have the correct tools.

I would not be really bothered by activating the feature, as I could find someone here. My main concerns are:

1/ As Dilbert pointed out, knowing in advance where each wire goes would be a huge help,

2/ Removing the steering weel - I heard one needs a special tool... which one ?
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Maybe a trip to ADI and Mike could fit it then, not as far north to travel and you see alot more of the guys on here face to face, maybe next year, if you could wait that long

Phil
 
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