How-to: Removing & Reinstalling the Headliner [Headlining]

Alan_uk said:
Hi Charles. I presume you mean


You could remove (pull off) the lining on the outer panel. It will pull off separately to the inner panel lining and comes off quite easily.

The snagged is it will leave behind the glue and the foam backing and this will have to be scrapped off which is messy job involving some sort of softening agent (I used kitchen surface cleaner and then a scrapper). I think this will be very difficult to do without marking the good centre panel, especially when working near the groove.

Then the inner panel will have to be masked off to protect it from the impact glue that is sprayed on.

I suppose you could glue the new lining on top of the old residual foam and glue, but that may be risky - the impact glue may not work and the new lining may have bumps all over it as it is not going onto a smooth surface. Try this entirely at your own risk!

Edit: In photo 33 the old glue and foam is the orange colour and behind is the cream coloured biscuit which can be seen in odd places. Glueing over that may be problematic.

Note the outer panel feels fragile and seems to be made of a fibre board of some type. The inner panel is hard and looks like fibre glass.
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Hi Alan
Hmm I might try and debond the two, I can design and 3d print so I could make brackets to glue to the back of the two if there is space.

I've already tried to re glue and its only lasted about 3 months (still looked smart)

I suppose if I damage the Centre when relining the edge I can just do what you've done! or if its too hard ill contact a member on here that offers the service!
Cheers
Charles
 
Charles said:
Hmm I might try and debond the two,
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There is a gap of about 5mm (from memory) between the outer and inner panels. This filled with a glue. Looks like hot stick glue though a bit softer. I would try removing from the rear, maybe insert a dremel disk for cutting plastic.
 
Alan_uk said:
There is a gap of about 5mm (from memory) between the outer and inner panels. This filled with a glue. Looks like hot stick glue though a bit softer. I would try removing from the rear, maybe insert a dremel disk for cutting plastic.
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I'll have a go!
 
Charles said:
I'll have a go!
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Hi Alan,
Got the headliner off in about 30 minutes, I found the d pillar trims easier to slide the metal clips off rather than pull, and then remove with pliers and re attach. I broke one of the sun visor holders (closest to centre). The glue just peeled out and is sort of a filler. I'm now debating weather or not the go for a black headliner. My fathers bmw does and I think it looks very smart, but is there a black paint that won't chip and peel?
Cheers
Charles
 

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I didn't do the hard work on this. It's someone else's creation that I was fortunate enough to get.
It's obviously not everyones taste but puts a smile on my face when I look up
 
Hi @Charles Great news that the glue just peeled out easily. You will have to find a suitable glue to reassembled.

I looked at your centre panel in case it could be used without recovering but it looks marked in places.

@A2Steve will no doubt be able to supply a new clip for a modest amount.

PS I see in the best A2 tradition you gave you headliner shelter in-doors.

Biscuit in dinning room.JPG
 
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Alan_uk said:
Hi @Charles Great news that the glue just peeled out easily. You will have to find a suitable glue to reassembled.

I looked at your centre panel in case it could be used without recovering but it looks marked in places.

@A2Steve will no doubt be able to supply a new clip for a modest amount.

PS I see in the best A2 tradition you gave you headliner shelter in-doors.

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Hi Allan
The marks are just from where I've handled it and have since disappeared! I did notice around a few edges it has started to peel, not sure if I will redo it still as the fabric is glued by that I removed so should be held on re gluing. I'm currently debating on weather or not to go for a soul coloured headliner. My big worry is the grab handles would wear quickly if painted and look a bit shabby? Have you any experience painting items with tamyia paints or similar as I know my refurnished climate panel was painted satin tamyia and is wearing well! I fear the flex from the grab handles would cuase it to peel?
Charles
 
Charles said:
Have you any experience painting items with tamyia paints or similar as I know my refurnished climate panel was painted satin tamyia and is wearing well! I fear the flex from the grab handles would cuase it to peel?
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Hi Charles. I'm afraid not.

Could you use another grab handle from a breaker? According to this post https://www.a2oc.net/community/index.php?threads/glasses-case.47888/#post-461083 grab handles came in Platinum (light grey) or Twist (beige) but there might be other colours from other vehicles that would fit.

See here https://duckduckgo.com/?q=auid+a2+grab+handle+part&atb=v287-1&iax=images&ia=images
 
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