Birchall
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Just out of interest Steve, are your ATL's emission values on the registration document?
RAB
Yes they are.
Steve B
Just out of interest Steve, are your ATL's emission values on the registration document?
RAB
Sent to Tfl:
"We have three cars in our family two VW Lupo 3L's and one Audi A2 1.2Tdi that I have checked previously for compliance with the T-charge and they were all shown as not being subject to the T-charge. While all three cars are nominally Euro 3, due to their exceptional fuel efficiency (95mpg), all three meet the emission requirements for Euro 4 and therefore should not be subject to the charge. So imagine my surprise this morning on checking again, to find that the Lupo's do not now qualify but the Audi still does, especially so since the Lupo's have slightly lower emissions than the Audi! I also know of other examples where cars with identical specifications are met with different responses. It would appear that your administration of the T-charge is an utter shambles!"
RAB
The A2 combined consumption and emissions were very slightly lower than the Lupo 3L in tests - mostly due better aero at higher speeds.
Sent to Tfl:
"We have three cars in our family two VW Lupo 3L's and one Audi A2 1.2Tdi that I have checked previously for compliance with the T-charge and they were all shown as not being subject to the T-charge. While all three cars are nominally Euro 3, due to their exceptional fuel efficiency (95mpg), all three meet the emission requirements for Euro 4 and therefore should not be subject to the charge. So imagine my surprise this morning on checking again, to find that the Lupo's do not now qualify but the Audi still does, especially so since the Lupo's have slightly lower emissions than the Audi! I also know of other examples where cars with identical specifications are met with different responses. It would appear that your administration of the T-charge is an utter shambles!"
RAB
But, isn't the T charge about particulates and not CO2 emissions? So unless you have a particulate filter (dpf) you will be subject to the charge? Or am I reading it wrong?
Another for they need to sort it out, management and i have the same car 2001 TDIs her is compliant mine isn't ...
Yes, but my point was that you said the 3L should meet Euro 4 due to its exceptional fuel economy, but should it as you have no idea what particulates it's pushing out? For example, my 535d BMW meets Euro 6 but still pushes out 153g/km of CO2, which is more than your A2 TDi, but as it has a DPF the particulates are very low, making it ok for the T charge.No, not just about particulates. It's whether it meets the Euro 4 emission standards or not.
RAB
Yes, but my point was that you said the 3L should meet Euro 4 due to its exceptional fuel economy, but should it as you have no idea what particulates it's pushing out? For example, my 535d BMW meets Euro 6 but still pushes out 153g/km of CO2, which is more than your A2 TDi, but as it has a DPF the particulates are very low, making it ok for the T charge.
It seems your complaint to TFL is unfounded? Or maybe I've misunderstood?
The particulates value is on the vehicle's CoC and V5, as are all the required emission values. They are all below the Euro 4 requirements.
RAB
For example, my 535d BMW meets Euro 6 but still pushes out 153g/km of CO2, which is more than your A2 TDi, but as it has a DPF the particulates are very low, making it ok for the T charge.